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tommy750 Posts: 1049
7/4/2021
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Watched a work-mandated OSHA heat exposure video last week so figured I was ready for summer hiking. "Rest, Shade, Water", it advised. Headed out to McCain Valley where it was 86 when I arrived at 9 am (forecast said high of 83). Occasional nice shady spot:
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Found this little guy inside. Looks like a striped racer.(7/20/21 Correction: going to have to change my mind on that; looks more like at Coast Patchnose; you can check here for more info: http://www.californiaherps.com/snakes/pages/s.h.virgultea.html ) It waited till I got a few pics and zipped away. Saw/heard one other snake but it rattled and zipped away before a pic.
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Came across a couple nice rock shelters with flakes and sherds near a village site overlooking Pepperwood Canyon:
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Uniface stone tool:
 IMG_6774 by tomteske, on Flickr
This poor little guy was deep in a rock shelter:
 IMG_6755 by tomteske, on Flickr
Was going to head father north but only had 3L and some areas felt 95-100 degrees (was 93 degrees when I got back) so made it to a ridge overlooking Canebrake to take a peek at what the Overland Fire had done and turned back. You can see the red streaks where the fire retardant was dropped. Overall, didn't look too torn up at least from my vantage point.
 IMG_6804 by tomteske, on Flickr
About six miles and another nice day out hiking. Happy 4th. Tom
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Brian Posts: 225
7/4/2021
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Great pics. Now you're tempting me to do some high desert stuff. I've been concentrating on El Cajon MTN and other local hikes to try to get in shape for next desert season.
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ziphius Posts: 911
7/5/2021
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Nice trip report Tommy. Good time of year to be out there when prepared.
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tommy750 Posts: 1049
7/5/2021
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Brian wrote:
Great pics. Now you're tempting me to do some high desert stuff. I've been concentrating on El Cajon MTN and other local hikes to try to get in shape for next desert season.
El Cajon is a hard to beat place to prepare for any kind of hiking IMHO. Worst heat exposure experience I've ever had was attempting to climb El Cajon in August with 2L years ago. If only I'd seen the OSHA video!
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tommy750 Posts: 1049
7/5/2021
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Nice trip report Tommy. Good time of year to be out there when prepared.
Yep, definitely had the place to myself.
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rockhopper Posts: 668
7/5/2021
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Nice Trip. Looks like a juvenile cat. Too bad. Cougar? Bob cat? Definitely heading to higher elevations or close to the coast for the summer.
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Rocko1 Posts: 597
7/6/2021
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Nice report. I have often found boulder caves in AB and other areas and thought-how did someone NOT occupy this as a shelter-seems more than likely someone did at some point in history.
RE: El Cajon Mtn-just did this yesterday with a 5:20am start. Even with the temps not that high, the humidity, lack of wind and near constant exposure coupled with some laughably steep climbs, it's a tough one! I would say it's harder than Granite's southwest approach.
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tommy750 Posts: 1049
7/6/2021
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Nice Trip. Looks like a juvenile cat. Too bad. Cougar? Bob cat? Definitely heading to higher elevations or close to the coast for the summer.
I am guessing it was bobcat based on its size and where it was found. Ziphius, any thoughts?
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tommy750 Posts: 1049
7/6/2021
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Nice report. I have often found boulder caves in AB and other areas and thought-how did someone NOT occupy this as a shelter-seems more than likely someone did at some point in history.
RE: El Cajon Mtn-just did this yesterday with a 5:20am start. Even with the temps not that high, the humidity, lack of wind and near constant exposure coupled with some laughably steep climbs, it's a tough one! I would say it's harder than Granite's southwest approach.
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ziphius Posts: 911
7/9/2021
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Yep, young bobcat.
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deborah Posts: 115
7/11/2021
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Great pictures and report! I never knew the name of the "striped racers". I always like seeing those.
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tekewin Posts: 368
7/22/2021
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Nice trip! Gutsy to get that far out in the heat.
I'd be tempted to do short morning hikes if I lived closer. 2+ hour drive for me to AB.
Don't they close El Cajon for the entire month of August? Dangerous heat on that one.
I agree with your call on the patch nose. It's a common snake in the OC.
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Rocko1 Posts: 597
7/26/2021
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They do close ECM in August. If you start pre-dawn it's not so bad in other warm months.
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ziphius Posts: 911
7/27/2021
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People should carry a hiking umbrella on *shadeless* El Cajon Mountain in warm weather. Your head + torso will be 10 - 15 degrees cooler. Carrying one is worth it if you get injured or just to keep you cooler, with a side benefit of it making you pay more attention to your footwork. My qualifications for pontification? 100 + round-trips on the mountain, including 90 degree plus days, without incident. Rangers tell me they do about a rescue a week up there, sometimes involving an airlift, which I've aided with once.
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Rocko1 Posts: 597
7/27/2021
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People should carry a hiking umbrella on *shadeless* El Cajon Mountain in warm weather. Your head + torso will be 10 - 15 degrees cooler. Carrying one is worth it if you get injured or just to keep you cooler, with a side benefit of it making you pay more attention to your footwork. My qualifications for pontification? 100 + round-trips on the mountain, including 90 degree plus days, without incident. Rangers tell me they do about a rescue a week up there, sometimes involving an airlift, which I've aided with once.
Good point. I would love to try a lightweight umbrella but with hiking sticks I can't.
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dsefcik Administrator Posts: 2622
7/27/2021
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Good point. I would love to try a lightweight umbrella but with hiking sticks I can't.
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ziphius Posts: 911
7/27/2021
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That would work Daren.
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Rocko1 Posts: 597
7/28/2021
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Not a bad idea Daren. https://www.amazon.com/NEW-Vi-Umbrella-Adjustable-Multifunction-Headwear/dp/B07SXJ5B8W/ref=asc_df_B07SXJ5B8W/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=366324011962&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=5986338963772733368&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9031318&hvtargid=pla-811831028639&psc=1&tag=&ref=&adgrpid=79098076547&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvadid=366324011962&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=5986338963772733368&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9031318&hvtargid=pla-811831028639
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tekewin Posts: 368
7/28/2021
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Not a bad idea Daren. https://www.amazon.com/NEW-Vi-Umbrella-Adjustable-Multifunction-Headwear/dp/B07SXJ5B8W/ref=asc_df_B07SXJ5B8W/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=366324011962&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=5986338963772733368&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9031318&hvtargid=pla-811831028639&psc=1&tag=&ref=&adgrpid=79098076547&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvadid=366324011962&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=5986338963772733368&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9031318&hvtargid=pla-811831028639
Definitely scare away the cougars wearing that.
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dsefcik Administrator Posts: 2622
7/28/2021
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Think I will stick with a normal hat and get some vitamin D.
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tommy750 Posts: 1049
7/29/2021
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A few years back I showed up in McCain for a mid summer overnight trip with Daren while wearing all white including a big floppy hat. As I recall, the ensemble went over like a lead mylar as did prior discussions about a reflective hiking umbrella. Never got one but still think it would be a good idea in low wind open terrain. Don't forget the SPF part. Have already had my share of skin cancers removed and total body coverage with something, sunscreen or clothing, is a good idea.
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Rocko1 Posts: 597
7/29/2021
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A few years back I showed up in McCain for a mid summer overnight trip with Daren while wearing all white including a big floppy hat. As I recall, the ensemble went over like a lead mylar as did prior discussions about a reflective hiking umbrella. Never got one but still think it would be a good idea in low wind open terrain. Don't forget the SPF part. Have already had my share of skin cancers removed and total body coverage with something, sunscreen or clothing, is a good idea.
On the way down from Rabbit one in our group had an ultralight reflective umbrella. 6-7oz if I recall. It also had a hand strap that attached to your shoulder strap so your hand could hold umbrella shaft and quasi rest your wrist at the same time. 2 miles from the trailhead it was 92F and 1-5mph winds. I tried it for a few minutes and it helped with the heat greatly. The shadow cast covered about the top 40% of your body. Having air move around you while in the shade it much cooler and preferable that just having clothing-however breathable-cover your skin. Of course would work for rain too.
Is it worth the weight?
Cons-can't use 2 hiking poles, weight, doesn't hold up to strong wind-will break.
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deborah Posts: 115
7/29/2021
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tommy750 wrote:
A few years back I showed up in McCain for a mid summer overnight trip with Daren while wearing all white including a big floppy hat. As I recall, the ensemble went over like a lead mylar as did prior discussions about a reflective hiking umbrella. Never got one but still think it would be a good idea in low wind open terrain. Don't forget the SPF part. Have already had my share of skin cancers removed and total body coverage with something, sunscreen or clothing, is a good idea.
On the way down from Rabbit one in our group had an ultralight reflective umbrella. 6-7oz if I recall. It also had a hand strap that attached to your shoulder strap so your hand could hold umbrella shaft and quasi rest your wrist at the same time. 2 miles from the trailhead it was 92F and 1-5mph winds. I tried it for a few minutes and it helped with the heat greatly. The shadow cast covered about the top 40% of your body. Having air move around you while in the shade it much cooler and preferable that just having clothing-however breathable-cover your skin. Of course would work for rain too.
Is it worth the weight?
Cons-can't use 2 hiking poles, weight, doesn't hold up to strong wind-will break.
I have a Sea to Summit umbrella that I occasionally carry. I like it for days that are particularly hot when I know I'm going to be out all day. I may only use it for a few hours, but even then it really helps with the heat.
If I'm going to be doing more trail running then I leave it behind to save weight and volume.
Yeah, it doesn't work well if it's really windy or if you're scrambling. But I find that when it's warm enough to use the umbrella, the rocks are too hot to climb around on anyway, so that problem kinda works itself out. It's just a different kind of outing.
And I've actually used it for hiking in the rain too. 
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