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harmono Posts: 71
12/28/2012
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I noticed an ongoing thread spread across various posts about the Goat Canyon Trestle and the Impossible Railroad.
These threads have some really good information on how to get there, and what you will find there, and some awesome pictures too.
To get the full experience on this forum read all these posts.
My recent trip there:
http://www.anzaborrego.net/AnzaBorrego/Forum/topic437-goat-canyon-trestle-from-dos-cabesas-rd.aspx
My plans for the upcoming trip.
http://www.anzaborrego.net/AnzaBorrego/Forum/topic407-december-th-indian-hills-trestle-to-goat-canyon.aspx
Hiking to goat canyon trestle.
http://www.anzaborrego.net/AnzaBorrego/Forum/topic1-hiking-to-goat-canyon-trestle.aspx
http://www.anzaborrego.net/AnzaBorrego/Forum/topic155-whale-peak--inner-pasture--goat-cyn-trestle.aspx
http://www.anzaborrego.net/AnzaBorrego/Forum/topic383-goat-canyon-trestle-hike-trip-report.aspx
Old Railway Train Parts
http://www.anzaborrego.net/anzaborrego/forum/topic79-carrizo-gorge-old-railway-train-parts.aspx
Via MTB
http://www.anzaborrego.net/AnzaBorrego/Forum/topic409-goat-canyon-trestle-via-mtb.aspx
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I just bought: 'San Diego and Arizona Railway:: The Impossible Railroad' by Reena Deutsch, Ph.D.
www.amazon.com
Surveyors called the San Diego and Arizona Railway (SD&A) "The Impossible Railroad" because of its jagged, mountainous, and brutal desert route. The financier and driving force behind building this binational 148-mile rail
There are some railroad related questions and things that I would like to discuss, and share with others.
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harmono Posts: 71
12/28/2012
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This is a Google Map that I created that is a work in progress. Sorry for all the scribbled trails. But it outlines the train tracks for you, and eventually will have some
hiking paths that I have taken that make sense. Feel free to collaborate with me on this map, however I am not sure how that is done exactly. I have tried to open it up to everyone.
I think I can send you an invite via email, but I'm not sure what that will accomplish.
https://maps.google.com/maps/ms?msid=200894553877442534046.0004cd8885173c865ca28&msa=0&ll=32.727292,-116.184797&spn=0.047583,0.055275
Perhaps the admin could help me with the below html:
[html]<iframe width="640" height="480" frameborder="0" scrolling="no" marginheight="0" marginwidth="0" src="https://maps.google.com/maps/ms?msa=0&msid=200894553877442534046.0004cd8885173c865ca28&ie=UTF8&t=m&ll=32.7509,-116.180248&spn=0.069299,0.109863&z=13&output=embed"></iframe><br /><small>View <a href="https://maps.google.com/maps/ms?msa=0&msid=200894553877442534046.0004cd8885173c865ca28&ie=UTF8&t=m&ll=32.7509,-116.180248&spn=0.069299,0.109863&z=13&source=embed" style="color:#0000FF;text-align:left">Carrizo Gorge Railway Map</a> in a larger map</small>[/html]
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surfponto Administrator Posts: 1364
1/3/2013
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Great compilation.
thanks for posting that...
Bob
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surfponto Administrator Posts: 1364
1/3/2013
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Not sure you can embed an iframe with this forum software.
Of course you could always export to a jpg but then you lose the interactivity
I will look into it,
Bob
Casey Van Tieghem wrote:
This is a Google Map that I created that is a work in progress. Sorry for all the scribbled trails. But it outlines the train tracks for you, and eventually will have some
hiking paths that I have taken that make sense. Feel free to collaborate with me on this map, however I am not sure how that is done exactly. I have tried to open it up to everyone.
I think I can send you an invite via email, but I'm not sure what that will accomplish.
https://maps.google.com/maps/ms?msid=200894553877442534046.0004cd8885173c865ca28&msa=0&ll=32.727292,-116.184797&spn=0.047583,0.055275
Perhaps the admin could help me with the below html:
[html]<iframe width="640" height="480" frameborder="0" scrolling="no" marginheight="0" marginwidth="0" src="https://maps.google.com/maps/ms?msa=0&msid=200894553877442534046.0004cd8885173c865ca28&ie=UTF8&t=m&ll=32.7509,-116.180248&spn=0.069299,0.109863&z=13&output=embed"></iframe><br /><small>View <a href="https://maps.google.com/maps/ms?msa=0&msid=200894553877442534046.0004cd8885173c865ca28&ie=UTF8&t=m&ll=32.7509,-116.180248&spn=0.069299,0.109863&z=13&source=embed" style="color:#0000FF;text-align:left">Carrizo Gorge Railway Map</a> in a larger map</small>[/html]
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harmono Posts: 71
1/7/2013
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surfponto wrote:
Great compilation.
thanks for posting that...
Bob
I'm glad you appreciated it. I wasn't sure where I was going with this. Maybe I'll keep working on it.
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harmono Posts: 71
1/17/2013
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I periodidally check the SDMTS board meetings regarding the SD&AE railroad because there is a section that gives updates for the "Desert Line" which was the Carrizo Gorge Railway. There was a meeting on January 15th, and there is or was a speaker who is trying to expose PIR who obtained the rights to the railway from SDMTS. (Sorry for the complicated scheme, not sure how to simplify it). At any rate, apparently there could be some litigation, and hesitantcy from people dealing with PIR because of past activity. For example the former President of Carrizo Gorge Railway was sued by the widow of Junior Seau. The whole relevance of this has to do with if there will be any future railroad activity. I personally think it would be great if there was railroad activity although it would get in the way of hiking there. But in the long term the railroad would be maintained (and I'm worried about the Goat Canyon Tresle), and help business in San Diego. It also might some day provide passenger service, and I would like to some day ride on the railroad.
Here is a link to the meeting notes, you can figure it out yourself. If you need more information let me know (due to the sensitivity of the subject, it's sort of vague in public posts).
http://www.sdmts.com/MTS/documents/2013-1-15SDAEPKGFORMAILOUT.pdf
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dsefcik Administrator Posts: 2622
1/17/2013
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Interesting...thanks for the update..!
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tommy750 Posts: 1049
1/18/2013
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Any update on the January 15 meeting, Casey? I'm already tired of Armstrong and Te'o and in need of fresh scandal 
Casey Van Tieghem wrote:
I periodidally check the SDMTS board meetings regarding the SD&AE railroad because there is a section that gives updates for the "Desert Line" which was the Carrizo Gorge Railway. There was a meeting on January 15th, and there is or was a speaker who is trying to expose PIR who obtained the rights to the railway from SDMTS. (Sorry for the complicated scheme, not sure how to simplify it). At any rate, apparently there could be some litigation, and hesitantcy from people dealing with PIR because of past activity. For example the former President of Carrizo Gorge Railway was sued by the widow of Junior Seau. The whole relevance of this has to do with if there will be any future railroad activity. I personally think it would be great if there was railroad activity although it would get in the way of hiking there. But in the long term the railroad would be maintained (and I'm worried about the Goat Canyon Tresle), and help business in San Diego. It also might some day provide passenger service, and I would like to some day ride on the railroad.
Here is a link to the meeting notes, you can figure it out yourself. If you need more information let me know (due to the sensitivity of the subject, it's sort of vague in public posts).
http://www.sdmts.com/MTS/documents/2013-1-15SDAEPKGFORMAILOUT.pdf
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harmono Posts: 71
1/20/2013
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This railroad has had many scandals in the past, and this is just the icing on the cake. I did read something in there about one of SDG&E's contractors possibly causing some damage to the tracks, I'm still reading. It's alot of material to go through. I'm just trying to find out what's going on and what the future is for this track.
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Any update on the January 15 meeting, Casey? I'm already tired of Armstrong and Te'o and in need of fresh scandal
Casey Van Tieghem wrote:
I periodidally check the SDMTS board meetings regarding the SD&AE railroad because there is a section that gives updates for the "Desert Line" which was the Carrizo Gorge Railway. There was a meeting on January 15th, and there is or was a speaker who is trying to expose PIR who obtained the rights to the railway from SDMTS. (Sorry for the complicated scheme, not sure how to simplify it). At any rate, apparently there could be some litigation, and hesitantcy from people dealing with PIR because of past activity. For example the former President of Carrizo Gorge Railway was sued by the widow of Junior Seau. The whole relevance of this has to do with if there will be any future railroad activity. I personally think it would be great if there was railroad activity although it would get in the way of hiking there. But in the long term the railroad would be maintained (and I'm worried about the Goat Canyon Tresle), and help business in San Diego. It also might some day provide passenger service, and I would like to some day ride on the railroad.
Here is a link to the meeting notes, you can figure it out yourself. If you need more information let me know (due to the sensitivity of the subject, it's sort of vague in public posts).
http://www.sdmts.com/MTS/documents/2013-1-15SDAEPKGFORMAILOUT.pdf
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tommy750 Posts: 1049
2/12/2013
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Nice article in the UT about the railroad getting fixed. Four to five trains daily are anticipated if it gets repaired. Hope they eventually put a passenger car in the mix. Tom
http://www.utsandiego.com/news/2013/feb/11/tijuana-san-diego-railroad-tracks/
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surfponto Administrator Posts: 1364
2/13/2013
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Wow. Not sure of my feelings on this
Nice to have it closed and somewhat obscure.
Guess there would be no more hikes thru the tunnels if the trains started running, unless you were willing to do this
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Nice article in the UT about the railroad getting fixed. Four to five trains daily are anticipated if it gets repaired. Hope they eventually put a passenger car in the mix. Tom
http://www.utsandiego.com/news/2013/feb/11/tijuana-san-diego-railroad-tracks/
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