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2 days ago
Topic:
Valley of the Moon to East Davies Valley

davidwyby
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There are some interesting blm areas in the mntns. I live down here...I recommend maintaining some elevation for another month.
2 days ago
Topic:
Valley of the Moon to East Davies Valley

tekewin
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Great report and photos! I haven't been around the forum much since COVID, but I missed this report back from back in January. I'll add VOM to my hike list based on your great photos.

With most forest areas closed right now, I'm tempted to head back to the desert before temps become comfortable. Might not be a good idea.
5 days ago
Topic:
Photography

Britain
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Britain
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Topic: Photography
Went out for a short drive last week. Hot and smokey. Seen some heavy tractor marks and grading out by Indian hill. They added some concrete barriers to keep out the illegal off-roading.
5 days ago
Topic:
Photography

Britain
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Britain
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Topic: Photography
Pretty cool timelaspe
6 days ago
Topic:
Photography

Buford
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Buford
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Topic: Photography
From earlier this summer when you could actually see the stars through the smoke. Not as happy with this one. Click the image for the timelapse video:


Single image representation:

edited by Buford on 9/15/2020
8 days ago
Topic:
Photography

dsefcik
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Topic: Photography
Thumbs Up
10 days ago
Topic:
Photography

ziphius
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ziphius
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Topic: Photography
Excellent Buford!
11 days ago
Topic:
Photography

tommy750
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tommy750
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Topic: Photography
Very nice time lapse clips!
11 days ago
Topic:
Photography

Buford
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Buford
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Topic: Photography
A timelapse video from a summer night a while ago. I need to do a better job removing the insect blip early in the sequence:



Sunrise in the summer:

12 days ago
Topic:
Fish Creek Mountains

dsefcik
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Topic: Fish Creek Mountains
davidwyby wrote:
Just got home from the mountains of CO...why do we live here again?

ask myself everyday...
12 days ago
Topic:
Fish Creek Mountains

davidwyby
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Just got home from the mountains of CO...why do we live here again?
14 days ago
Topic:
Valley of the Moon to East Davies Valley

tommy750
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cercidium wrote:
thanks for posting these updates, especially the recent satellite view from tommy. was that from a service you subscribe to?


I got the images from caltopo.com. At the bottom of the drop down base layers menu there is a choice for "live satellites" but you have to be a pro member which is about $50/year. I use that site so often I'm happy to give them that amount yearly.

Thanks for the wall update, Cercidium. Looking forward to seeing you pics.
15 days ago
Topic:
Valley of the Moon to East Davies Valley

cercidium
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i forgot to add a link that shows the extend of new border fencing, which you can zoom in on for reasonably detailed information. this map suggests the fence will not be constructed through valley of the moon. it was also clear from mx hwy 2 that the fence is not going to connect the area east of davies valley with the desert floor south of the 98 and ocotillo. they appear to be avoiding the most mountainous stretches of desert.

https://www.cbp.gov/border-security/along-us-borders/border-wall-system
15 days ago
Topic:
Valley of the Moon to East Davies Valley

cercidium
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thanks for posting these updates, especially the recent satellite view from tommy. was that from a service you subscribe to?

i was curious to see the area up close and decided to drive in to this location on thursday last week via smuggler roads from the mexican side. they've cleared a lot of earth but the fence is still about a mile away as seen in the satellite view seen. the construction crew was pretty freaked out when i walked into what they perceived as their site, telling me i needed to leave the area. i politely informed them, from about 6 feet away and in two distinct countries, that i was in mexico and the rules set forth by the u.s. gov't did not apply to the earth i was standing on. they were perplexed by this, and said they were going to detain me (and on it went). needless to say, the border patrol arrived and there were no arrests that day.

i'm happy to share photos but it appears they need to be uploaded from a url. if there are alternate ways to do this please let me know.
16 days ago
Topic:
The Potrero

ziphius
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ziphius
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Topic: The Potrero
Every once in a while, someone illegally drives a jeep trail back into the Potrero and that is annoying. I enjoy the place and plan on spending Election 2020 week back there with no outside contacts and no idea of what is going on. See this story: https://www.sandiegoreader.com/news/2016/nov/14/stringers-who-won-election-clinton-or-trump/

The key is to camp far away from any water sources so that 1) the animals can enjoy it at night and 2) your chances of running into someone are greatly diminished. I'll admit to having camped right next to water sources in the past, it's something I don't do any more. A few northbound travelers use the saddle route between Canebrake and The Potrero, I've found their discarded carpet slippers and snack containers. Camp off the beaten path and you likely will see no one.
edited by ziphius on 9/5/2020
16 days ago
Topic:
The Potrero

tommy750
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Topic: The Potrero
sddarkman619 wrote:
Ziphius, the unwanted 4x4 traffic, were they stupid drunk people? Did they cause any issues? or did they leave?
Possibly taking my Daughter out for her first BP trip and hearing this makes me wonder if I should be concerned.


I know there's others on this forum who've been out in Potrero many more times than I have but during the dozen or so times I've been out there for day hikes and BP trips I've seen people three times, a couple people poking around a cultural site and two groups of hunters. Think it would be a great first backpacking trip choice.
edited by tommy750 on 9/5/2020
16 days ago
Topic:
The Potrero

tommy750
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Topic: The Potrero
Rocko1 wrote:
I didn't know there was a spring back there. Is it still viable?


I along with these froggies can attest it's quite viable as of a few weeks ago.
IMG_4602 by tomteske, on Flickr

IMG_4627 by tomteske, on Flickr
17 days ago
Topic:
The Potrero

Rocko1
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Rocko1
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Topic: The Potrero
I didn't know there was a spring back there. Is it still viable?
18 days ago
Topic:
The Potrero

sddarkman619
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sddarkman619
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Topic: The Potrero
Ziphius, the unwanted 4x4 traffic, were they stupid drunk people? Did they cause any issues? or did they leave?
Possibly taking my Daughter out for her first BP trip and hearing this makes me wonder if I should be concerned.
23 days ago
Topic:
Fish Creek Mountains

Britain
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Britain
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Topic: Fish Creek Mountains
davidwyby wrote:
Placeholder for a trip report...last winter I hiked in a mining trail from the S. to a few mines, and once from the N, but did not reach mines.


I will upload pictures later, remind me if I forget. @britain

I want to explore more to the Western parts of the area this winter, as well as the Coyote mntns. I have an itch for the off-trail, less traveled places.


For now, it's the Santa Rosas and hopefully San Jacinto for the first time by way of Marion soon.


Good stuff waiting David.
24 days ago
Topic:
Fish Creek Mountains

rockhopper
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rockhopper
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Topic: Fish Creek Mountains
Second the notion of the Mountains. That's what the Cahuilla did! San Jacinto via Marion is a neat route. Didn't bring my ol' 35mm SLR on that trip. It's a more gradual climb as I remember. You can stop at the top of the granite monolith opposing mighty Tahquitz.
25 days ago
Topic:
Fish Creek Mountains

davidwyby
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Placeholder for a trip report...last winter I hiked in a mining trail from the S. to a few mines, and once from the N, but did not reach mines.


I will upload pictures later, remind me if I forget. @britain


I want to explore more to the Western parts of the area this winter, as well as the Coyote mntns. I have an itch for the off-trail, less traveled places.


For now, it's the Santa Rosas and hopefully San Jacinto for the first time by way of Marion soon.
26 days ago
Topic:
Valley of the Moon to East Davies Valley

davidwyby
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There was another closer to the border per a BP buddy.
26 days ago
Topic:
Valley of the Moon to East Davies Valley

tommy750
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Heard BLM already towed them. Three? I only remember two, the blue Chevy Blazer and the grey/maroon ?Nissan.
26 days ago
Topic:
Valley of the Moon to East Davies Valley

davidwyby
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I wish I could get BLM to let me into Davies to get the 3 abandoned vehicles out.
26 days ago
Topic:
Valley of the Moon to East Davies Valley

Britain
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All things come to past. Wonder how much destruction will be caused from the wall running it from Davis to VOM?
27 days ago
Topic:
Valley of the Moon to East Davies Valley

tommy750
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Spent about 45 minutes today talking with a BP agent regarding desert hiking and he said the wall was already being built in Davies Valley and possibly Valley of The Moon. Couldn't really believe this was happening but I was wrong. Here's satellite imaging from two days ago and four months ago. Have to admit, Davies Valley was one of the most serene and placid places I've ever hiked, but not anymore. Valley of The Moon doesn't look like it's been touched---yet.
ezgif.com-gif-maker by tomteske, on Flickr
8/21/2020
Topic:
Valley of the Moon to East Davies Valley

davidwyby
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The map showed 10 miles...people's fitbit watches were showing 16-18 miles...almost all rockhopping or sand.
8/21/2020
Topic:
Valley of the Moon to East Davies Valley

Britain
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That was a good hike David. Thanks for the share.
8/20/2020
Topic:
Valley of the Moon to East Davies Valley

tommy750
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Have hiked out to Peak 4004 a few times along with Davies and Pinto but never that route. Looks like fun. Great TR. Thanks
8/19/2020
Topic:
Valley of the Moon to East Davies Valley

rockhopper
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Nice Cross country expedition and photos. Can't wait till lower temps in "our back yard". Meanwhile coastal hikes will have to do. It's hot here too. I'm sweating buckets! Stay safe.
8/18/2020
Topic:
Valley of the Moon to East Davies Valley

davidwyby
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It's been a few months now. I'd say maybe rabbit size. Too big for rat...too small for Coyote. Maybe too small for badger. Note claw dig marks to right side.
8/18/2020
Topic:
Valley of the Moon to East Davies Valley

ziphius
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Good-looking trip! What was the diameter, roughly, of those burrows? I see some kangaroo rat tail drag marks outside the burrows. The 'exhaust' clearing is interesting. Sometimes quail will create similar dustbath circles in dirt, but this looks more like gravel. Have also seen smaller clearings created by desert sidewinders in gravelly substrate.
8/18/2020
Topic:
Oriflame Mountain

Rocko1
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Rocko1
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Topic: Oriflame Mountain
davidwyby wrote:
Rocko1 wrote:
davidwyby wrote:
Glamis recovery by david wyby, on Flickr

edited by davidwyby on 8/17/2020

There were some pretty gnarly ruts on some sections of that jeep road about halfway from the S2 to the first rusted truck. I assume those are still there.




Yes, but I have been a gnarly offroader for 20 years before getting into hiking ;-)


Ha, awesome. I suggest when things cool down and after a rain-a trip from there down to the floor by Salt Creek. Really cool.
8/18/2020
Topic:
Oriflame Mountain

davidwyby
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davidwyby
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Topic: Oriflame Mountain
Rocko1 wrote:
davidwyby wrote:
Glamis recovery by david wyby, on Flickr

edited by davidwyby on 8/17/2020

There were some pretty gnarly ruts on some sections of that jeep road about halfway from the S2 to the first rusted truck. I assume those are still there.




Yes, but I have been a gnarly offroader for 20 years before getting into hiking ;-)
8/18/2020
Topic:
Oriflame Mountain

davidwyby
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davidwyby
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Topic: Oriflame Mountain
My trip was very abbreviated. I stopped once I got down to the plateau and looked around the immediate area. No water but evidence of it (moisture) and deer tracks. I think I noticed an area on GE to the N that looked like it had been plowed. I'll get pictures up this evening maybe.
edited by davidwyby on 8/18/2020
8/18/2020
Topic:
Oriflame Mountain

Rocko1
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Rocko1
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Topic: Oriflame Mountain
davidwyby wrote:
Glamis recovery by david wyby, on Flickr

edited by davidwyby on 8/17/2020

There were some pretty gnarly ruts on some sections of that jeep road about halfway from the S2 to the first rusted truck. I assume those are still there.
8/17/2020
Topic:
Oriflame Mountain

tommy750
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tommy750
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Topic: Oriflame Mountain
I seemed to have overlooked this nice TR, Rocko1. Davidwyby, thanks for bringing it to my attention! Surprised you found any cultural stuff out there just as Gary and I were surprised we found any thing the one time we were out there since BLM allowed the ranchers to plow/drag most of that plateau up there including a nice occupation site. Did you notice any water in Salt Creek or Oriflame Creek when you were out there?
8/17/2020
Topic:
Valley of the Moon to East Davies Valley

davidwyby
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That's about half the pictures. Some weren't that interesting and some so as not to disclose locations.
8/17/2020
Topic:
Valley of the Moon to East Davies Valley

davidwyby
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Start at VOM


VOM to Davies by david wyby, on Flickr

Puddletop Rock at the base of the scramble down. Lone Pine is also here. Somewhere after here there was a grove of palms and lots of sherds.


VOM to Davies by david wyby, on Flickr


VOM to Davies by david wyby, on Flickr

Looks like evidence of vehicle exhaust, but as I remember, was not accessible by vehicle.

VOM to Davies by david wyby, on Flickr

Lots of morteros. I believe this was at the intersection of the furthest southern reaching BP Jeep road out of Meyer's valley and the canyon we hiked down.


VOM to Davies by david wyby, on Flickr

Next was Tarantula Falls. Had to scramble to get around/down it.

VOM to Davies by david wyby, on Flickr

The namesake...note the coincidence of the spider on the spiderco. Looked like he had drowned.

VOM to Davies by david wyby, on Flickr

Side canyon had water coming down it. Needs exploring.


VOM to Davies by david wyby, on Flickr

A grove getting closer to Davies.

VOM to Davies by david wyby, on Flickr

Lo siento


VOM to Davies by david wyby, on Flickr

Finally in Davies. At this point we were hoping to set off sensors and get picked up by BP.


VOM to Davies by david wyby, on Flickr


...but we still had to hike across the valley, scramble up (and down the in the dark) the dark ridge that bisects the valley N to S, then across the remainder of the valley to the gate to an awaiting campfire with chili, etc.


VOM to Davies by david wyby, on Flickr

VOM to Davies by david wyby, on Flickr

Yours Truly


Billy Goat by david wyby, on Flickr
8/17/2020
Topic:
Resident desert rat

davidwyby
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davidwyby
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Topic: Resident desert rat
Rocko1 wrote:
Welcome! Would love to hear about some good spots in the Santa Rosas for camping.


Lots of Yellow Post sites to choose from, little side trails with sites.
8/17/2020
Topic:
Oriflame Mountain

davidwyby
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davidwyby
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Topic: Oriflame Mountain
Little blingy, I call it the Bro runna, but that's how it was when I got it. I wanted the Icon suspension for the nice ride and the rock rails to keep it straight. I removed the anti sway bar to allow more suspension articulation for traction and ride comfort. I like it but now we are looking to get an RV trailer, so I need to trade it for a truck.
8/17/2020
Topic:
Oriflame Mountain

davidwyby
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davidwyby
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Topic: Oriflame Mountain
Glamis recovery by david wyby, on Flickr

edited by davidwyby on 8/17/2020
8/17/2020
Topic:
Oriflame Mountain

davidwyby
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davidwyby
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Topic: Oriflame Mountain
A 2007 4runner with a little bit of lift, slightly larger tires, and rock sliders on the sides.


I still need to get Imgur to host pics.
8/17/2020
Topic:
Oriflame Mountain

Rocko1
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Topic: Oriflame Mountain
davidwyby wrote:
I have been driving by that spot for years wondering what's down there. Your post pushed me to go see yesterday evening. I was short on time so just drove down to the "shelf" with the Jeep trail loop. Nearly stepped on a Southern Pacific rattler looking for water in the bottom. Saw some sherds, ruins, deer sign, and lots of quail. Couple old cars (than one is actually a Nash Rambler) I intend to go back and explore further. I'll post pictures later.



Nice. What kind of car/truck do you have?
8/17/2020
Topic:
Oriflame Mountain

davidwyby
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Topic: Oriflame Mountain
I have been driving by that spot for years wondering what's down there. Your post pushed me to go see yesterday evening. I was short on time so just drove down to the "shelf" with the Jeep trail loop. Nearly stepped on a Southern Pacific rattler looking for water in the bottom. Saw some sherds, ruins, deer sign, and lots of quail. Couple old cars (than one is actually a Nash Rambler) I intend to go back and explore further. I'll post pictures later.
8/17/2020
Topic:
Greetings! And um, help?

davidwyby
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Welcome, good luck on your quest.
8/16/2020
Topic:
Greetings! And um, help?

ThatDutchWeirdo
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Hi all! I was a big time lurker on this forum five or six years ago. I loved reading all the trip reports and seeing photos of the desert. And then for some reason I forgot about this site. (Until the other day, but I'll get to that.)

As a teen, I was introduced to Anza Borrego through several trips organized by a desert lover and visited all the usual sights like 17 Palms, Pumpkin Patch, Carrizo Trestle, Split Mountain, etc. I don't get out there that way much anymore--last time was two years ago when I took a foreign exchange student out to see Font's Point and the sculptures around town. I'd thought about visiting again during the Spring of this year to take some photos, but then Covid and the shutdown happened.... Maybe this winter I'll get out there for some more amateur photography.

But the reason I suddenly remembered this forum is because of DStretch. Recently, my uncle asked me to try and clean up the text on an old Dutch gravestone he wants to read (he's big into genealogy and is trying to trace family trees.) I had taken pictures of it years ago when visiting the area, cleaned them up in Photoshop and made them mostly legible. I've since lost those photos and he's lost the info I sent translating the text.

He recently sent me new photos, thinking I could clean them up again in PS, but the headstone is now far less readable. I tried everything I know with levels and channels, but couldn't make them more readable. I don't know if that's because the headstone is beyond hope, or my modest PS skills weren't up to the task.

That's when I remembered DStretch and wondered if it might coax out more detail. I googled and discovered the iDStetch app and bought that thinking it'd be a good quick solution, but my ancient iPad mini apparently isn't compatible with it. This is gonna sound cheap, but I really don't want to fork out another $50 for the main program just to see if it can do anything with a couple of gravestone photos. And if it doesn't work, I'm then out a total of $70 bucks.

I'm embarrassed that my introduction here involves asking a favor, but would it be okay to post the photos, and would someone here who has DStretch be willing to run them through it real quick just to see if anything pops? Personally, I think it's a lost cause without better pictures, but I don't want to go back to my uncle with that conclusion before I've tried everything I know.

Thanks for reading through my long ramble!
8/13/2020
Topic:
Resident desert rat

davidwyby
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Topic: Resident desert rat
Well, right now winter favorite is probably fish creek mntns due to the remoteness and history. I want to explore the Coyotes more. Summer is Santa Rosa mountains, want to get over to San Jac more - try Marion Mt. I prefer tall shady trees and open forests to brushy areas without shade or oak tree areas with noisy leaves on the ground and lots of bugs.
8/13/2020
Topic:
Imperial Valley Desert Museum

davidwyby
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Like the Museum a lot. We made the gates when I was a kid.
8/13/2020
Topic:
Three Saturdays in Canebrake

davidwyby
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Good stuff.


@tommy750, I am local if you're ever looking for someone to hike with or a backup or whatever.
8/13/2020
Topic:
Salt Creek/Cottonwood Canyon

Rocko1
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davidwyby wrote:
I am terrified of getting Lyme...

Go out and buy Sawyer Permethrin. Treat your shoes, socks, pants, shirt, hat, backpack, etc. Last about 5 weeks. You can also buy concentrated permethrin on Amazon and dilute yourself-note-this is much cheaper but has a slight paint smell, the Sawyer is odorless to me once dry. When you get home do tick check in mirror, take hot shower, etc. Not a huge chance out west of getting it but it is possible and people have contracted it.
8/13/2020
Topic:
Salt Creek/Cottonwood Canyon

davidwyby
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I am terrified of getting Lyme...
8/2/2020
Topic:
Owens Valley

tommy750
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Topic: Owens Valley
dsefcik wrote:
Nice TR tommy750....Gary, myself and other gang members were not too far away up in the Domeland Wilderness and enjoyed some very hot summer weather as well. We did manage to see bears, deer and other local wildlife and some rock art. Glad you and the spouse had a good trip.

Definitely was warm out there. You guys probably had a nice portable shower at base camp like we did, right?? Looking forward to your post!
8/2/2020
Topic:
Owens Valley

tommy750
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Topic: Owens Valley
tekewin wrote:
Thanks for report! It took me a few minutes to figure out that tent set up. Clever.


You got some close up sheep, always a treat. The White Mountains are still on my to-do list. I've heard the road is really long and rough.


All the dirt roads on top we traveled on were not bad and you could easily drive 30-40 mph. Not really sure about other seasons, however.
8/2/2020
Topic:
Owens Valley

dsefcik
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Topic: Owens Valley
Nice TR tommy750....Gary, myself and other gang members were not too far away up in the Domeland Wilderness and enjoyed some very hot summer weather as well. We did manage to see bears, deer and other local wildlife and some rock art. Glad you and the spouse had a good trip.
8/2/2020
Topic:
Photography

dsefcik
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Topic: Photography
Lots of great photos here, thanks everyone for sharing..!

@buford...the milky way glow in the background...I hate that...I always thought it was El Centro but I think tommy750 suggested it was Calexico instead.
7/29/2020
Topic:
Diablo BM

Rocko1
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Topic: Diablo BM
tekewin wrote:
Haha, yup. Tweezers are a necessity. It's not just the cactus itself, but the landmines that I often kick into my calf. But you win with 75+ needles. Ouch.

I had missed a needle in my foot from this trip and I just got it out last week after some 'surgery'. I really need some more cactus proof boots.smile
7/29/2020
Topic:
Diablo BM

tekewin
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tekewin
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Topic: Diablo BM
Haha, yup. Tweezers are a necessity. It's not just the cactus itself, but the landmines that I often kick into my calf. But you win with 75+ needles. Ouch.
7/29/2020
Topic:
Diablo BM

Rocko1
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Rocko1
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Topic: Diablo BM
tekewin wrote:
Rocko1 wrote:

There is a phenomenal amount of Cholla cactus. I have never been 'bit' by some many in any trip. I think at least 20 times I got jumped.
edited by Rocko1 on 7/10/2020



Yes! A couple of dense cholla gardens. As soon as I stop concentrating on it, it gets me...


edited by tekewin on 7/29/2020



I learned the value of REAL tweezers on this trip. I usually carry the small Swiss army knife that has 'tweezers'. They were completely useless for the 75+ needles I had to remove. I bought a couple of Uncle Bills Silver Gripper tweezers since.
7/29/2020
Topic:
Diablo BM

tekewin
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tekewin
tekewin
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Topic: Diablo BM
Rocko1 wrote:

There is a phenomenal amount of Cholla cactus. I have never been 'bit' by some many in any trip. I think at least 20 times I got jumped.
edited by Rocko1 on 7/10/2020



Yes! A couple of dense cholla gardens. As soon as I stop concentrating on it, it gets me...


edited by tekewin on 7/29/2020
7/29/2020
Topic:
Owens Valley

tekewin
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tekewin
tekewin
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Topic: Owens Valley
Thanks for report! It took me a few minutes to figure out that tent set up. Clever.


You got some close up sheep, always a treat. The White Mountains are still on my to-do list. I've heard the road is really long and rough.
7/27/2020
Topic:
Photography

ziphius
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ziphius
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Topic: Photography
Thanks all. This was so long ago, 2014. I was using my Sony mirrorless NEX-6 (still using it), with the downloadable time lapse app. Maybe a frame every 2 seconds or so?
tommy750 wrote:
ziphius wrote:
Clouds rushing over San Ysidro Mtns from Big Spring area in 2014.
https://video.wixstatic.com/video/a56887_3e935c1a146c4aad98b3d4525a9296d5/1080p/mp4/file.mp4

Nice, I like it. Mind sharing your settings taking/making the clip? Thanks!

edited by ziphius on 7/27/2020
7/27/2020
Topic:
Photography

tommy750
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tommy750
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Topic: Photography
ziphius wrote:
Clouds rushing over San Ysidro Mtns from Big Spring area in 2014.
https://video.wixstatic.com/video/a56887_3e935c1a146c4aad98b3d4525a9296d5/1080p/mp4/file.mp4

Nice, I like it. Mind sharing your settings taking/making the clip? Thanks!
7/27/2020
Topic:
Photography

Rocko1
Rocko1
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Rocko1
Rocko1
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Topic: Photography
ziphius wrote:
Clouds rushing over San Ysidro Mtns from Big Spring area in 2014.
https://video.wixstatic.com/video/a56887_3e935c1a146c4aad98b3d4525a9296d5/1080p/mp4/file.mp4

That is great. I love the shadows shrinking this as well.
7/27/2020
Topic:
Photography

ziphius
ziphius
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ziphius
ziphius
Posts: 835
Topic: Photography
Clouds rushing over San Ysidro Mtns from Big Spring area in 2014.
https://video.wixstatic.com/video/a56887_3e935c1a146c4aad98b3d4525a9296d5/1080p/mp4/file.mp4
7/26/2020
Topic:
Photography

Buford
Buford
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Buford
Buford
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Topic: Photography
Another timelapse experiment from a previous weekend:


Random milky way picture from last weekend
7/19/2020
Topic:
Photography

tommy750
tommy750
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tommy750
tommy750
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Topic: Photography
Very nice time-lapse.
7/19/2020
Topic:
Photography

Buford
Buford
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Buford
Buford
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Topic: Photography
One more from last weekend:


Photos of the comet from this weekend didn't come out as well.


Sunrise images from this weekend, the original is ~14000x5000 pixels:


Click the image below to play a timelapse of sunrise from the panorama above. I purposefully kept the sun out of the timelapse image, but unfortunately the clouds didn't light up across the sky so the video missed the best part.
Desert sunrise

edit -> to make link work
edited by Buford on 7/19/2020
7/18/2020
Topic:
Photography

tommy750
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tommy750
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Topic: Photography
Here it is last night about 930 pm off EC 85 a few miles above Plaster City. Was windy and 90-95 degrees still so not the best conditions! You can see the faint second tail and the entire tail has swung rightward compared to Buford's earlier pic. Could easily see it with the naked eye out there but not in my front yard in El Centro even with binoculars. Was really cool to see.

Neowise1 by tomteske, on Flickr
7/18/2020
Topic:
Owens Valley

rockhopper
rockhopper
Posts: 536
rockhopper
rockhopper
Posts: 536
Topic: Owens Valley
tommy750 wrote:
rockhopper wrote:
Nice rock art expedition Tommy. The whole Owens valley was a major corridor to the early peoples for thousands of years so there is a lot of rock art out there. Speaking of thousands of years, that obsidian point you found on the White mountains is probably very very old. That has been a dry mountain for a long time with only seasonal creeks from snow melt. Was it found near a seasonal creek drainage? btw Years ago, when we went up to the Bristle cone forest / White mountains we smoke the clutch on our Ford Ranger going up the top locked gate just shy of the 14,000 ft+ summit weather station. I probably walked over your arrow point.


I found the point lying on the ground near where I took the BW bristlecone pic. Wasn't really near anything. Assuming the road to the research station used to be open?? Wow, that would have been a nice trip. Now the gate is at 11.7K and you've got a 15 mile 3K g/l hike ahead of you. I found out my Tundra had a transmission fluid temp idiot light going up Silver Canyon. Magically went away when I changed from 4-Hi to 4-Lo. Silver Canyon is the short cut from Bishop to the White Mts and is about a 6,200 feet climb in 9 miles with a 43% grade in places. Was about 100 degrees till above 8000 ft. Our camp site off the road had great views of the night sky but totally forgot about the comet. Need to check that out this weekend.



This was back in the 1990's . The graded dirt ( rocky) road was open up to a locked gate just below the summit. You could see the research station beyond.
Also, When ever we are traveling up in that area during the cool seasons we always stop at nearby Benton Hot Springs or Kehoe Hot springs for a soak and talk story with the locals.
BTW nice Tundra and interesting camping set up.
7/18/2020
Topic:
Owens Valley

ziphius
ziphius
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ziphius
ziphius
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Topic: Owens Valley
smile Yes sir! I have plans! Just need to get over a nagging piriformis injury!

tommy750 wrote:
ziphius wrote:
Great trip Tommy. Makes me miss the desert!

What are you waiting for Ziphius?? Everything is open and Inner Pasture this weekend is probably only as hot as El Cajon Mt. during an illicit August dayhike. smile
7/18/2020
Topic:
Owens Valley

rockhopper
rockhopper
Posts: 536
rockhopper
rockhopper
Posts: 536
Topic: Owens Valley
Rocko1 wrote:
rockhopper wrote:
Nice rock art expedition Tommy. The whole Owens valley was a major corridor to the early peoples for thousands of years so there is a lot of rock art out there. Speaking of thousands of years, that obsidian point you found on the White mountains is probably very very old. That has been a dry mountain for a long time with only seasonal creeks from snow melt. Was it found near a seasonal creek drainage? btw Years ago, when we went up to the Bristle cone forest / White mountains we smoke the clutch on our Ford Ranger going up the top locked gate just shy of the 14,000 ft+ summit weather station. I probably walked over your arrow point.



I have read about the White Mtn Peak hike and the road going up to the trailhead. Didn't realize it was that steep.




It wasn't that steep. It was more our vehicle and the altitude. A older 90's Ford ranger with big tires and a small V6 fully loaded with a week of camping gear.
7/17/2020
Topic:
Photography

Buford
Buford
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Buford
Buford
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Topic: Photography
The comet was visible the last two nights in the city starting after sunset. It was only visible with assistance though. I couldn’t see it with the naked eye. Got more pictures.

In the desert last weekend it was clearly visible with the naked eye before sunrise.
7/17/2020
Topic:
Owens Valley

tommy750
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tommy750
tommy750
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Topic: Owens Valley
Buford wrote:
Nice report.

I like the sheep shots of course smile. Two lambs to five ewes is not terrible. ABDSP in July lamb survival is close to 0% some years and areas, other areas close to 70%. I don't know what normal is near the Bristlecones.

I have been meaning to make my way up to the White Mountains.

Thanks for the info. Couldn't find anything specific regarding sheep in that area but it's not endangered like the Sierra or Peninsular sheep and the forest service website mentions sighting in that area.
7/17/2020
Topic:
Photography

tommy750
tommy750
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tommy750
tommy750
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Topic: Photography
Nice pic! Was thinking of heading out tonight to take a peek.
7/16/2020
Topic:
Photography

ziphius
ziphius
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ziphius
ziphius
Posts: 835
Topic: Photography
Great shot of the comet Buford!
7/16/2020
Topic:
Photography

Buford
Buford
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Buford
Buford
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Topic: Photography
I think most people will recognize the profile of the mountains here:
7/16/2020
Topic:
Owens Valley

Buford
Buford
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Buford
Buford
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Topic: Owens Valley
Nice report.

I like the sheep shots of course smile. Two lambs to five ewes is not terrible. ABDSP in July lamb survival is close to 0% some years and areas, other areas close to 70%. I don't know what normal is near the Bristlecones.

I have been meaning to make my way up to the White Mountains.
7/16/2020
Topic:
Owens Valley

Rocko1
Rocko1
Posts: 339
Rocko1
Rocko1
Posts: 339
Topic: Owens Valley
rockhopper wrote:
Nice rock art expedition Tommy. The whole Owens valley was a major corridor to the early peoples for thousands of years so there is a lot of rock art out there. Speaking of thousands of years, that obsidian point you found on the White mountains is probably very very old. That has been a dry mountain for a long time with only seasonal creeks from snow melt. Was it found near a seasonal creek drainage? btw Years ago, when we went up to the Bristle cone forest / White mountains we smoke the clutch on our Ford Ranger going up the top locked gate just shy of the 14,000 ft+ summit weather station. I probably walked over your arrow point.



I have read about the White Mtn Peak hike and the road going up to the trailhead. Didn't realize it was that steep.
7/15/2020
Topic:
Owens Valley

tommy750
tommy750
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tommy750
tommy750
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Topic: Owens Valley
ziphius wrote:
Great trip Tommy. Makes me miss the desert!

What are you waiting for Ziphius?? Everything is open and Inner Pasture this weekend is probably only as hot as El Cajon Mt. during an illicit August dayhike. smile
7/15/2020
Topic:
Owens Valley

tommy750
tommy750
Posts: 932
tommy750
tommy750
Posts: 932
Topic: Owens Valley
rockhopper wrote:
Nice rock art expedition Tommy. The whole Owens valley was a major corridor to the early peoples for thousands of years so there is a lot of rock art out there. Speaking of thousands of years, that obsidian point you found on the White mountains is probably very very old. That has been a dry mountain for a long time with only seasonal creeks from snow melt. Was it found near a seasonal creek drainage? btw Years ago, when we went up to the Bristle cone forest / White mountains we smoke the clutch on our Ford Ranger going up the top locked gate just shy of the 14,000 ft+ summit weather station. I probably walked over your arrow point.


I found the point lying on the ground near where I took the BW bristlecone pic. Wasn't really near anything. Assuming the road to the research station used to be open?? Wow, that would have been a nice trip. Now the gate is at 11.7K and you've got a 15 mile 3K g/l hike ahead of you. I found out my Tundra had a transmission fluid temp idiot light going up Silver Canyon. Magically went away when I changed from 4-Hi to 4-Lo. Silver Canyon is the short cut from Bishop to the White Mts and is about a 6,200 feet climb in 9 miles with a 43% grade in places. Was about 100 degrees till above 8000 ft. Our camp site off the road had great views of the night sky but totally forgot about the comet. Need to check that out this weekend.
7/15/2020
Topic:
Owens Valley

ziphius
ziphius
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ziphius
ziphius
Posts: 835
Topic: Owens Valley
Great trip Tommy. Makes me miss the desert!
7/15/2020
Topic:
Owens Valley

rockhopper
rockhopper
Posts: 536
rockhopper
rockhopper
Posts: 536
Topic: Owens Valley
Nice rock art expedition Tommy. The whole Owens valley was a major corridor to the early peoples for thousands of years so there is a lot of rock art out there. Speaking of thousands of years, that obsidian point you found on the White mountains is probably very very old. That has been a dry mountain for a long time with only seasonal creeks from snow melt. Was it found near a seasonal creek drainage? btw Years ago, when we went up to the Bristle cone forest / White mountains we smoke the clutch on our Ford Ranger going up the top locked gate just shy of the 14,000 ft+ summit weather station. I probably walked over your arrow point.
7/14/2020
Topic:
Owens Valley

tommy750
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tommy750
tommy750
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Topic: Owens Valley
Rocko1 wrote:
Very nice! I am always amazed at how you find these artifacts. You may have a built in dowsing rod ability for this stuff. wink

That's exactly what I used to say to everyone I went out with when they found stuff and I never did. Then one day I was out in Canebrake with Daren and found seven points. Now, it seems easier to find stuff. Guess something in your brain clicks and then they're much more obvious to locate.
7/14/2020
Topic:
Owens Valley

Rocko1
Rocko1
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Rocko1
Rocko1
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Topic: Owens Valley
Very nice! I am always amazed at how you find these artifacts. You may have a built in dowsing rod ability for this stuff. wink
7/13/2020
Topic:
Owens Valley

tommy750
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tommy750
tommy750
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Topic: Owens Valley
Not exactly Anza Borrego but pretty much the same stuff: rocks and sand, heat, sheep, hiking, rock art, artifacts, exploring, you know. When the wife's planned trip to Baja fell through (expired passport and extension of travel ban), we decided to head to the Owens Valley area. Was going to be hot but figured we could camp either in the eastern Sierras or in the White Mts to stay cool and do whatever during the day. Made it to Indian Wells Canyon (near Inyokern) the first night and explored a rock art site reportedly dating mainly to the "Ghost Dance" period of the 1890's. The site had some nice pictos with some reportedly showing a rider with a white hat, the prophet Wavoka. During the trip started reading a book on the Ghost Dance and highly recommend it: https://www.amazon.com/Gods-Red-Son-Religion-America/dp/0465015026

One of two sites in Indian Wells Canyon:

Indian Wells Canyon Pano_lxx_0.58_0.90_1.50 by tomteske, on Flickr


IMG_4288 by tomteske, on Flickr

Was planning on visiting the second site in the morning but constant 30-50 mph winds became unbearable so we just packed up at 0300 and headed north. Ended up near a site called Ayers Rock, reportedly the most researched picto site in California. Also one of the most plundered.

Ayers Rock is the large boulder at ground level left ot the Joshua Tree.

Ayers Rock Pano by tomteske, on Flickr

Ayers Rock Panel 1_lxx_0.40_0.84_1.14 by tomteske, on Flickr

Not your typical anthropomorphs!

Ayers Rock Bunny by tomteske, on Flickr

Very nice sheep and antelope panel.


Ayers Rock Panel_lxx_0.42_0.84_1.38 by tomteske, on Flickr

Walking back to the truck, found this really nice large projectile point with a broken tip and missing base. Probably the largest point I've ever seen and definitely atlatl/spear material.

Ayers Rock Point by tomteske, on Flickr

We next headed up to the Bishop area. The heat kinda limited our activities but spent a relaxing evening near Buttermilk Boulders. Here's a rock art site associated with this area.

Buttermilk Boulder Pano_lxx_0.36_0.78_1.02 by tomteske, on Flickr

Went up Silver Canyon Rd toward the Ancient Bristlecone Pine Forest, a rather steep (4-Lo) route to the crest of the White Mts. Saw a ewe group of five ewes and two lambs. Not sure if that's a good or bad ratio of mommies to babies but you sheep counters would know. Almost felt like Buford with my camera a couple times since the sheep were pretty close to the road smile

Ewe Group With Two Lambs by tomteske, on Flickr

Ewe on the DL by tomteske, on Flickr

Silver Canyon Switchbacks by tomteske, on Flickr

Camped at a nice plateau at about 8300 ft but still in the 90s when we got there. The evenings were always cool and had a great view of the night sky and Milky Way.

Silver Canyon Road by tomteske, on Flickr

Visited the Patriarch Grove.

Patriarch Grove by tomteske, on Flickr

Patriarch Grove A Giraud by tomteske, on Flickr

Found a nice ?western stemmed point in the middle of the tundra.

Great Basin Stemmed Point by tomteske, on Flickr

Great Basin Stemmed Point 3 by tomteske, on Flickr

Lots of nice little flowers in the tundra.

Tundra Flowers by tomteske, on Flickr

Tundra Flowers 2 by tomteske, on Flickr

Hawk near a water trough.

Hawk at Trough 2 by tomteske, on Flickr

Hawk at Trough by tomteske, on Flickr

Spent one night at Alabama Hills which is pretty, but.... Headed up to Whitney Portal for a mandatory water fall sighting per the spouse.

IMG_4411 by tomteske, on Flickr

IMG_4403 by tomteske, on Flickr

One last rock art site on the way home.

Walker Creek Boulder_xp-0.25_1.52 by tomteske, on Flickr

And probably the wife's favorite camping spot after five days in the heat smile Did hook her up with a new shower setup and awning which was greatly appreciated by all.

IMG_4439 by tomteske, on Flickr

About 1K mlles driving, maybe a couple miles hiking and another great time in the outdoors. Enjoy! Tom
7/10/2020
Topic:
Diablo BM

Rocko1
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Rocko1
Rocko1
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Topic: Diablo BM
tekewin wrote:
That's a fun hike. Great photos and stuff from the register. I remember lots of agave when you first leave the road.

There is a phenomenal amount of Cholla cactus. I have never been 'bit' by some many in any trip. I think at least 20 times I got jumped.
edited by Rocko1 on 7/10/2020
7/8/2020
Topic:
Diablo BM

tekewin
tekewin
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tekewin
tekewin
Posts: 232
Topic: Diablo BM
That's a fun hike. Great photos and stuff from the register. I remember lots of agave when you first leave the road.
6/19/2020
Topic:
Colorado Desert From The Air

rockhopper
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Very interesting. The whole under water archaeological community will no doubt "bring up" new pieces to the puzzle of the history human occupation of our area. I always thought whole different civilizations came and went along the coast, the mountains and the desert. The oldest clues seem to be underwater up to miles off shore all along the San Diego county coast and up to 300 feet below the surface. I need a submarine. Sign me up!
6/18/2020
Topic:
Colorado Desert From The Air

tommy750
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rockhopper wrote:
Tommy. Book is on order. Looking forward to adding to the Library. On topic, Back in the 80's during my "Surfing Years" we would see scuba divers coming out of the ocean with stone tools and grinding metates from off shore. This was in the N. County near Encinitas. The divers could only go so deep so alot is still out there. 10,000 years ago the shore line was around 300 feet lower and up to miles out from the current shore line. At the Spindrift site in La Jolla the ocean bottom drops off quickly and the old shore line was only a few hundred yards out.

Here's an interesting article on La Jolla off shore archaeology. Fascinating stuff.
https://www.lajollalight.com/news/health-science/sd-scripps-center-marine-archaeology-20170803-story.html
6/17/2020
Topic:
Colorado Desert From The Air

Rocko1
Rocko1
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rockhopper wrote:
Rocko1 wrote:
tommy750 wrote:
If you search "La Jolla Archaeological Area" or "Spindrift Archaeological District" you get a few hits on archaeology reports generated in association with La Jolla Shores area building permits. They're an interesting read. Here's a pic from Gallegos' book showing where the Spindrift site is located. Reported C14 dating of midden deposits is as far back as 9000 years before present with midden deposits 1-8 feet thick. The site has experienced continuous occupation over that extended period because who wouldn't want to live on Spindrift Drive? smile

W-1 Spindrift by tomteske, on Flickr



Ha-the house we are working on is in the middle of the lower red circle. Makes sense.



Back in the 1990's our company ( Foundation / Structural Engineering / Construction) worked on the bluff house to the left of the top of the red outline. We had to excavate with Archaeology reps on site . Neat info that the Tennis pond was a former lagoon marsh. Great forum. Always learning something new.



Interesting. We have to have archaeologist and native representative approve the dig and site.
6/17/2020
Topic:
Colorado Desert From The Air

rockhopper
rockhopper
Posts: 536
Tommy. Book is on order. Looking forward to adding to the Library. On topic, Back in the 80's during my "Surfing Years" we would see scuba divers coming out of the ocean with stone tools and grinding metates from off shore. This was in the N. County near Encinitas. The divers could only go so deep so alot is still out there. 10,000 years ago the shore line was around 300 feet lower and up to miles out from the current shore line. At the Spindrift site in La Jolla the ocean bottom drops off quickly and the old shore line was only a few hundred yards out.
6/17/2020
Topic:
Colorado Desert From The Air

rockhopper
rockhopper
Posts: 536
Rocko1 wrote:
tommy750 wrote:
If you search "La Jolla Archaeological Area" or "Spindrift Archaeological District" you get a few hits on archaeology reports generated in association with La Jolla Shores area building permits. They're an interesting read. Here's a pic from Gallegos' book showing where the Spindrift site is located. Reported C14 dating of midden deposits is as far back as 9000 years before present with midden deposits 1-8 feet thick. The site has experienced continuous occupation over that extended period because who wouldn't want to live on Spindrift Drive? smile

W-1 Spindrift by tomteske, on Flickr



Ha-the house we are working on is in the middle of the lower red circle. Makes sense.



Back in the 1990's our company ( Foundation / Structural Engineering / Construction) worked on the bluff house to the left of the top of the red outline. We had to excavate with Archaeology reps on site . Neat info that the Tennis pond was a former lagoon marsh. Great forum. Always learning something new.
6/10/2020
Topic:
Colorado Desert From The Air

Rocko1
Rocko1
Posts: 339
tommy750 wrote:
If you search "La Jolla Archaeological Area" or "Spindrift Archaeological District" you get a few hits on archaeology reports generated in association with La Jolla Shores area building permits. They're an interesting read. Here's a pic from Gallegos' book showing where the Spindrift site is located. Reported C14 dating of midden deposits is as far back as 9000 years before present with midden deposits 1-8 feet thick. The site has experienced continuous occupation over that extended period because who wouldn't want to live on Spindrift Drive? smile

W-1 Spindrift by tomteske, on Flickr



Ha-the house we are working on is in the middle of the lower red circle. Makes sense.
6/10/2020
Topic:
Colorado Desert From The Air

ziphius
ziphius
Posts: 835
There is this sign on the Scripps Institution of Oceanography campus as well. https://images.app.goo.gl/fMmz5J5RrYaXcSUZA
edited by ziphius on 6/10/2020
6/10/2020
Topic:
Diablo BM

Rocko1
Rocko1
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Rocko1
Rocko1
Posts: 339
Topic: Diablo BM
tommy750 wrote:
Nice TR Rocko1. Have only been there once in 2014 but the register had stuff back to 1955. Think there were two register caches near the benchmark if I recall correctly.

Carl Whitefield (2018_09_25 07_05_23 UTC) by tomteske, on Flickr

1957 by tomteske, on Flickr



Fantastic! I only saw one red can with two small spiral logs(one starting in 1992 the other 2019) in a ziplock. I didn't look for another can to be honest.
6/9/2020
Topic:
Diablo BM

tommy750
tommy750
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tommy750
tommy750
Posts: 932
Topic: Diablo BM
Nice TR Rocko1. Have only been there once in 2014 but the register had stuff back to 1955. Think there were two register caches near the benchmark if I recall correctly.

Carl Whitefield (2018_09_25 07_05_23 UTC) by tomteske, on Flickr

1957 by tomteske, on Flickr
6/9/2020
Topic:
Colorado Desert From The Air

tommy750
tommy750
Posts: 932
If you search "La Jolla Archaeological Area" or "Spindrift Archaeological District" you get a few hits on archaeology reports generated in association with La Jolla Shores area building permits. They're an interesting read. Here's a pic from Gallegos' book showing where the Spindrift site is located. Reported C14 dating of midden deposits is as far back as 9000 years before present with midden deposits 1-8 feet thick. The site has experienced continuous occupation over that extended period because who wouldn't want to live on Spindrift Drive? smile

W-1 Spindrift by tomteske, on Flickr
6/8/2020
Topic:
Diablo BM

Brian
Brian
Posts: 22
Brian
Brian
Posts: 22
Topic: Diablo BM
I've done several trips to Sandstone Canyon by way of June before I had a car that could get there the usual way. It was always fun to run into people in Jeeps who weren't expecting to see anyone without a vehicle and couldn't figure out how I got there. The route goes by the base of Diablo but I've never gone up to the summit. I should add it to my list.




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