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tekewin Posts: 371
11/9/2020
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Been on my list a while. I didn't have any specific beta, just drove out and looked around. I tried five or six promising starts but only two led to long tunnels/slots. I know there must be more I didn't find.
Cave #1:
Cave #2:
Heart of mud
Some video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HEQypprK8kE&feature=youtu.be
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Rocko1 Posts: 600
11/9/2020
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Very nice. Did those about 5 years ago. Found some cool routes that popped up a vertical shaft near the top of a hill. Could really get 'lost' out there is enough time is spent.
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ziphius Posts: 911
11/9/2020
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Very cool! Never been there, but admittedly a little scared.
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tekewin Posts: 371
11/13/2020
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ziphius wrote:
Very cool! Never been there, but admittedly a little scared.
Haha, I was too, that's why I knew it was worth doing 
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tekewin Posts: 371
11/13/2020
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Rocko1 wrote:
Very nice. Did those about 5 years ago. Found some cool routes that popped up a vertical shaft near the top of a hill. Could really get 'lost' out there is enough time is spent.
"top of a hill" is where the danger is. I got about 20' up a side branch of cave #2, then my footsteps sounded hollow. Immediately went back.
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Rocko1 Posts: 600
11/13/2020
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tekewin wrote:
Rocko1 wrote:
Very nice. Did those about 5 years ago. Found some cool routes that popped up a vertical shaft near the top of a hill. Could really get 'lost' out there is enough time is spent.
"top of a hill" is where the danger is. I got about 20' up a side branch of cave #2, then my footsteps sounded hollow. Immediately went back.
Yeah, I sat on the edge of the opening, thought about that no one probably explored the 'canyons' that are more than likely above hollow ground and went back.
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dsefcik Administrator Posts: 2624
11/14/2020
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The mud caves are fun and need several trips out to really see most of everything. On busy weekends there are groups of people everywhere and you will see where all of the entrances are, many are so small and hidden they are hard to find even if you know where they are. In Schad's book he advises not to walk on top of the caves as they are subject to collapsing down. Tragically this happened back in 2012 to a young man named Guillermo Pino so folks should use caution when exploring the caves.
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tekewin Posts: 371
11/14/2020
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dsefcik wrote:
The mud caves are fun and need several trips out to really see most of everything. On busy weekends there are groups of people everywhere and you will see where all of the entrances are, many are so small and hidden they are hard to find even if you know where they are. In Schad's book he advises not to walk on top of the caves as they are subject to collapsing down. Tragically this happened back in 2012 to a young man named Guillermo Pino so folks should use caution when exploring the caves.
Thanks for the info and warning. That's a rough way to go. The signs there advise against exploring the caves, but clearly a lot of people do.
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rockhopper Posts: 668
11/14/2020
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Probably used as temporary shelter over the years. I remember when the young fella fell down and got wedged in a cave far below. They had a huge search party out there when he went missing. I wanted to go help but couldn't make it.
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rockhopper Posts: 668
11/14/2020
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On a lighter note. The silt, sand and mud stone you are walking on is over Four (4) miles thick ! The eroded down Colorado plateau during the past one to five million years. Faulted, subsided, tilted, the bad lands contain fossils of over 500 species of flora and fauna.
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Buford Posts: 461
11/16/2020
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Nice. I like the idea of exploring the mud caves, but I don't think you'll ever find me in there. Too scared. I was in Arroyo Tapiado a couple days after a storm once and saw a couple/heard cave ins and slides happen in different sections of the wash over a couple hours. It was kind of eerie standing in the wash bottom when all of a sudden you hear small pebbles rolling down hill followed by a bigger thump sound. This happened more than once that day. People were still crawling around the caves as this was happening.
I talked with a SAR person about the guy that disappeared. His last known location was only feet from where he was found yet it took them weeks to find him from what I remember of the case.
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tekewin Posts: 371
11/17/2020
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Buford wrote:
Nice. I like the idea of exploring the mud caves, but I don't think you'll ever find me in there. Too scared. I was in Arroyo Tapiado a couple days after a storm once and saw a couple/heard cave ins and slides happen in different sections of the wash over a couple hours. It was kind of eerie standing in the wash bottom when all of a sudden you hear small pebbles rolling down hill followed by a bigger thump sound. This happened more than once that day. People were still crawling around the caves as this was happening.
I talked with a SAR person about the guy that disappeared. His last known location was only feet from where he was found yet it took them weeks to find him from what I remember of the case.
Yeah, after a storm is the worst time to go. You want that mud to be hard and dry. I can easily see if someone fell through to a hollow cavern, they would be almost impossible to find. Another geological wonder in AB.
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