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anutami Posts: 491
7/16/2012
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With the weather way too extreme for me thought I would post a pic of an Olla I discovered about 10 years ago. As a kid I grew up right next to an Indian cermonial site in Ramona, Ca. I would come across broken pottery shards and has always been my dream to come across a fully intact Olla. In 6th grade I found a peace pipe and donated it to the Ramona Musuem. Exploring in ABDSP "way off trail" I came across a small cave. When I peaked inside there it was! A fully intact approx 3 gallon size Olla. I left it in place and just admired the awesome beauty of this thing, snapped a few pics and headed out. There are MANY treasures out there to find and please DO NOT touch, take, alter them in anyway if you come across them.
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rockhopper Posts: 668
7/16/2012
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A big WOW! I would go back and check on it from time to time being 10 years ago. Maybe contact the state museum for a retreval of such a outstanding find!
Could you get your hand inside it? Anything inside? Usually held water right? How far from a flat camping spot was it?
This is what I usually come across during cross country treks across the ABDSP. Some times in the strangest places. Sorry for the lousy cell phone pic. Sunglasses for scale. As you said please leave for others to enjoy!
[IMG]http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h294/metalmeister/ABDSP/10martinezsherd.jpg[/IMG]
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hikerdmb Posts: 423
7/16/2012
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That is very cool! Bravo to you for your ethics!!!
David
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anutami Posts: 491
7/16/2012
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rockhopper wrote:
A big WOW! I would go back and check on it from time to time being 10 years ago. Maybe contact the state museum for a retreval of such a outstanding find!
Could you get your hand inside it? Anything inside? Usually held water right? How far from a flat camping spot was it?
This is what I usually come across during cross country treks across the ABDSP. Some times in the strangest places. Sorry for the lousy cell phone pic. Sunglasses for scale. As you said please leave for others to enjoy!
Yeah I need to get back out there and check it out, but it is pretty remote and it will be very difficult to find again. I did not have a GPS back then and have no idea of any coordinates. I found this before kids and there is no way they would be able to make it out there. The opening is very large enough to fit two hands in. Also, the bottom of the olla is cracked, and there are little repair holes drilled out along the crack, like they put some kind of twine through it to try an patch it up. I really do not want it to be removed and put in a museum. I think it is much better out there for others to one day find.
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tommy750 Posts: 1049
7/17/2012
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That is really impressive. Nice find. Tom
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dsefcik Administrator Posts: 2622
7/17/2012
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Very nice, that looks like maybe a film photo you had printed and then photographed to share with us? I have heard reports of recent olla finds so they are still there.
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surfponto Administrator Posts: 1364
7/17/2012
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Very nice,
Amazing it was left intact after all this time.
thanks for sharing,
Bob
anutami wrote:
With the weather way too extreme for me thought I would post a pic of an Olla I discovered about 10 years ago. As a kid I grew up right next to an Indian cermonial site in Ramona, Ca. I would come across broken pottery shards and has always been my dream to come across a fully intact Olla. In 6th grade I found a peace pipe and donated it to the Ramona Musuem. Exploring in ABDSP "way off trail" I came across a small cave. When I peaked inside there it was! A fully intact approx 3 gallon size Olla. I left it in place and just admired the awesome beauty of this thing, snapped a few pics and headed out. There are MANY treasures out there to find and please DO NOT touch, take, alter them in anyway if you come across them.
<em>edited by surfponto on 7/17/2012</em>
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ziphius Posts: 911
7/18/2012
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Congratulations on the find and kudos to you for maintaining the olla's link to history by leaving it there. Someone else may be able to experience the same shiver-down-your-spine sensation in the future if they are lucky enough to stumble across it. Much better than having it tagged and catalogued in some drawer miles away from its 'historic context'. Anyone interested in reading and thinking hard about the ethics of leaving things in their place might enjoy "Finders Keepers: A Tale of Archaeological Plunder and Obsession", by Craig Childs. - Jim
http://www.houseofrain.com/bookdetail.cfm?id=1281649336899
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anutami Posts: 491
7/18/2012
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dsefcik wrote:
Very nice, that looks like maybe a film photo you had printed and then photographed to share with us? I have heard reports of recent olla finds so they are still there.
Yeah this was before I had a digital camera and had to wait about a week to get my prints. It is really crazy how digital cameras have given us instant gratification.
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tommy750 Posts: 1049
7/20/2012
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Looks like there still is lots of stuff out there. Check out this link: http://www.tucsonsentinel.com/local/report/050812_borderpatrol_artifacts/agents-discover-archaeological-artifacts-west-tucson/
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dsefcik Administrator Posts: 2622
7/21/2012
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tommy750 wrote:
Looks like there still is lots of stuff out there. Check out this link: http://www.tucsonsentinel.com/local/report/050812_borderpatrol_artifacts/agents-discover-archaeological-artifacts-west-tucson/
Interesting story, if you ever run across agents out in the field, take a moment to talk with them, they are out there every day and generally know the terrain pretty well. I have had agents tell me where to find rock art in the past and recently one agent described to me where they always see bighorn sheep.
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