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2 days ago
Topic:
2022

Buford
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Buford
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Topic: 2022
Stormy conditions make for better photos and timelapses. New shots, old locations and compositions.









Multiple timelapse exposures stacked to simulate a long exposure:
3 days ago
Topic:
Rockhouse / Clark Valley loop

rockhopper
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Nice loop trek. Well, at least you got a great work out lugging full camping gear on a day hike. wink Next time, dump the pack and camp. That's my favorite time to hike. Hiking with a day pack all day from a base camp in the wilderness. Cheers. Nice pics.
4 days ago
Topic:
The Killing of Frank Fox

Brian
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Brian
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Topic: The Killing of Frank Fox
I've only been to the old stage station once. I'd like to go back some time and look for that.
4 days ago
Topic:
The Killing of Frank Fox

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Topic: The Killing of Frank Fox
Britain wrote:
For whats its worth. We dug up some information On the Foxes. Speculation perhaps but a good match.

https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Fox-17780?fbclid=IwAR0p2zzQNatJd-wEp733EEDD6xjsRFhnM6B2dvjFI3Ha7TfT5xIEAiNNpEQ


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5 days ago
Topic:
The Killing of Frank Fox

Britain
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For whats its worth. We dug up some information On the Foxes. Speculation perhaps but a good match.

https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Fox-17780?fbclid=IwAR0p2zzQNatJd-wEp733EEDD6xjsRFhnM6B2dvjFI3Ha7TfT5xIEAiNNpEQ
7 days ago
Topic:
2022

dsefcik
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Have not run into that one before, have found a few others however...nice find.

Buford wrote:
Anyone know anything about this:


Found on a trip that started in Rockhouse and went up into the Santa Rosa range. Google turned up nothing for me.
7 days ago
Topic:
Rockhouse / Clark Valley loop

dsefcik
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Topic: Rockhouse / Clark Valley loop
Great TR, thanks for sharing. I know when I am out by myself I also tend to not stop. I have learned to appreciate taking some breaks and poking around, it is amazing what you can find when you start looking and take your time. Thumbs Up
8 days ago
Topic:
Rockhouse / Clark Valley loop

ziphius
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Good-looking trip! My favorite moments camping are when I set a multi-night campsite, take off the big pack, hunker down by a boulder, get out the binoculars and wait for the animals to show up.
8 days ago
Topic:
Rockhouse / Clark Valley loop

Buford
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Brian wrote:
Buford wrote:
Now that looks like a fun and adventurous loop! What day did you do it? I saw footprints on Rockhouse Truck Trail this weekend near the old trail leaving Rockhouse Canyon that you took. Was the petroglyph photo one of the ones near Corp BM? I assume the loop was clockwise?


I did the loop on Sunday 8AM-6PM, and yes it was clockwise. If I did it again I would probably go counterclockwise since descending that ridge was no fun. With my limited climbing ability I figured clockwise was more of a sure bet for this time.

There were other footprints besides mine for most of the route with one exception. As I was heading down the wash toward the ridge I descended, there were mountain lion tracks but no footprints. Then when I got to the split in the wash there were lots of footprints again, evidently on the Dawn's Peak expressway.

The petroglyph wasn't one of the ones near Corp. It was near the top of the trail you mentioned coming out of Rockhouse (and thanks for confirming it's a petroglyph - I was pretty sure it was but I often see patterns in the color of rocks and on closer inspection I'm not sure).


Actually, now that you mention it I am not sure it is a petroglyph dunno . I do know there is at least one glyph in that area. I don't know if I could find it again, someone else showed it to me a couple years ago. My car was parked at the end of Rockhouse Truck Trail all day Sunday so you probably walked past it. I am surprised there were that many footprints on the loop in general.
8 days ago
Topic:
Rockhouse / Clark Valley loop

Brian
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Buford wrote:
Now that looks like a fun and adventurous loop! What day did you do it? I saw footprints on Rockhouse Truck Trail this weekend near the old trail leaving Rockhouse Canyon that you took. Was the petroglyph photo one of the ones near Corp BM? I assume the loop was clockwise?


I did the loop on Sunday 8AM-6PM, and yes it was clockwise. If I did it again I would probably go counterclockwise since descending that ridge was no fun. With my limited climbing ability I figured clockwise was more of a sure bet for this time.

There were other footprints besides mine for most of the route with one exception. As I was heading down the wash toward the ridge I descended, there were mountain lion tracks but no footprints. Then when I got to the split in the wash there were lots of footprints again, evidently on the Dawn's Peak expressway.

The petroglyph wasn't one of the ones near Corp. It was near the top of the trail you mentioned coming out of Rockhouse (and thanks for confirming it's a petroglyph - I was pretty sure it was but I often see patterns in the color of rocks and on closer inspection I'm not sure).
8 days ago
Topic:
2022

Buford
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Buford
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Topic: 2022
Anyone know anything about this:


Found on a trip that started in Rockhouse and went up into the Santa Rosa range. Google turned up nothing for me.
8 days ago
Topic:
Rockhouse / Clark Valley loop

Buford
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Now that looks like a fun and adventurous loop! What day did you do it? I saw footprints on Rockhouse Truck Trail this weekend near the old trail leaving Rockhouse Canyon that you took. Was the petroglyph photo one of the ones near Corp BM? I assume the loop was clockwise?
8 days ago
Topic:
Rockhouse / Clark Valley loop

Brian
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Rocko1, that area in pic 6 is right at the top of the ridge spur I went down (just before dropping into the wash if you were going up). That is the reason I took that pic - there were so many spots in that area that looked perfect for camping. And since it's only a mile from the valley floor, I figured I would keep it in mind as an option for a future "easy" trip. But right after that I hit a boulder field and then it was super steep the rest of the way down. I realized it would still be a nice place to camp, but there's nothing easy about getting there.
8 days ago
Topic:
Rockhouse / Clark Valley loop

Rocko1
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Great report Brian. I totally get your feelings on the need to 'keep moving'. That area(pic 6) looks like it would be fantastic to camp at. Sound like a great time and really good mileage for that terrain. Villager is calling your name.. wink
9 days ago
Topic:
Rockhouse / Clark Valley loop

Brian
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This is a repeat of the loop I did last year when I ran into Darren and Gary (with a slight variation this time as I went down a different ridge). On last year's trip I felt like I was rushing through it since it was a hot day and I was worried about my water supply. This time I tried to plan in a way that would give me more time to explore. I didn't find much in the way of native artifacts and the problem this time wasn't with the logistics of the trip but rather my personality. I find it hard to linger in an area and look around when I'm not sure what I'm looking for. I have a drive to always be moving forward.

So this turned into a different kind of trip. At 1 PM I found myself on a nice plateau where I has planned to camp, and I had my tent, food and plenty of water. And I couldn't bring myself to stop, knowing that I had enough daylight to complete the loop that day.

The final descent was a one mile stretch that took me 2 hours. It ended up being a 10 hour / 15 mile hike with no breaks. This ended up being a different type of day than I had planned, but that's one of the things I find interesting about going to the desert. I often find something different than what I was looking for.



















9 days ago
Topic:
2022

Buford
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Buford
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Topic: 2022
Cell phone shot:
12 days ago
Topic:
2022

Buford
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Buford
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Topic: 2022
Thanks. I was looking for owls or other birds of prey but only found the birds pictured and only got bird on a stick shots. I have seen owls in those areas before multiple times. I know I could always go to the campground for owls but that is less fun.

One more bird on a stick:
12 days ago
Topic:
2022

rockhopper
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rockhopper
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Topic: 2022
Great eye! I always enjoy your superb wildlife photos and desert panoramas too!
12 days ago
Topic:
2022

dsefcik
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Topic: 2022
Looks like a good start to 2022..!

Nice DOF on the bird shots Thumbs Up
13 days ago
Topic:
2022

Brian
Brian
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Brian
Brian
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Topic: 2022
Very nice pics. I always love seeing your shots of the ramp.
13 days ago
Topic:
2022

Buford
Buford
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Buford
Buford
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Topic: 2022
New year, new thread.

Desert sunrise from the first trip of 2022:


None of these were the desert birds I was looking for:







More shots from my Borrego timelpase stacked to simulate long exposures:







21 days ago
Topic:
2021

Buford
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Buford
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Topic: 2021
Thanks all.

Full disclosure, the Cooper's was more than a few miles outside ABDSP.

I may make some nature documentary type stuff for fun.


I wish I could make enough money on photos so I could at least break even on the hobby or buy more gear Cool It is tough to make money off prints or images in publication. If I could monetize with little extra effort beyond what I already do, I would consider it.


Many photographers make most of their money on youtube being a talking head and/or teaching field workshops on when, how and where to take and process photos. I have little or no interest in that.



@tekewin, Your blog is usually one of the first to come up googling ABDSP peaks. I've done some of the same peaks right before or after you have.

I'll start a new photo thread once I have some new shots to post now that it is a new year.
21 days ago
Topic:
Jacumba hikers calendar

Brian
Brian
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Brian
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Topic: Jacumba hikers calendar
Latest calendar of hikes.
21 days ago
Topic:
2021

dsefcik
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Topic: 2021
Hawk video was exceptional...thank you so much for sharing, please keep posting...really good work.
21 days ago
Topic:
2021

dsefcik
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Topic: 2021
ApplauseThumbs Up Great photos...really nice buford..thank you for sharing..!!
21 days ago
Topic:
2021

tekewin
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tekewin
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Topic: 2021
The hawk dinner was something else. Pretty rare thing to witness.

I wasn't trying to flatter you, but I think your photos are pro level. You could probably get them published if you ever wanted to monetize it. I would also totally understand if you don't want to complicate your hobby. I don't put ads on my blog (though Google sometimes does). I just want it to be a resource.

Thanks!
26 days ago
Topic:
Santa Rosas Petroglyph deciphers

rockhopper
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dsefcik wrote:
I appreciate the confidence in my knowledge...but I am no expert and IMHO anyone that claims to know what the glyphs actually represent is probably just guessing from their own perspective. Other than the obvious human and animal motifs, take in some datura and think away.....

The radiating circle motifs are common and I have seen many that have leading/trailing ends that connect to other adjacent motifs. Just get out and find the petros/pictos and enjoy from your own perspective and research what you find if you feel motivated, I enjoy the exploration and discovery but will not claim to be highly educated on their meanings.



Daren, I agree 100% with you. Thanks for your input. "from their own perspective". I am just fascinated studying them and pondering their meanings.
btw I still think the first glyph represents the drying of ancient Lake Cahuilla.
Cheers
27 days ago
Topic:
Old Trails

Britain
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Britain
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Topic: Old Trails
Interesting on the Caltopo. To bad theres not enough maps listed. I sometimes dont like running across the trails. They always disrupt what I was out hiking for in the first place. End up chasing them down. Did a hike that Tom did a few years back NE of the stage station.Theres a sq rock formation above the bad lands. Stumbled on a trail missed the sq formation had to doubleback and find it. Simple hike ended up a 15 miler.
27 days ago
Topic:
Old Trails

Rocko1
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Rocko1
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Topic: Old Trails
Buford wrote:
Rocko1 wrote:
Britain wrote:
Been interested in the trails to and from the Indian hill area. Some I figure were the super highways. Some just to and from food gathering areas. This one I think goes over or around the Coyotes. Havent seen any track on the backside of the mountain yet. But for sure above the northside badlands of the Carrizo creek . South Mesa area there's another long one I found. Perhaps part of this highway. West of the Indian hill, on the west side of Moan, theres a trail cutting across the hill side and going up. Lost it at the top but on the way down it passes a few well defined roasting pits.Perhaps part of one of the highways.


Would be great to have a map of these ancient trails in the park. They are really fascinating.


I agree it would be a good thing to have a map of all the old trails. I know some people on this board have a knowledge of a lot of them. Some of the really old maps show routes that still exist on the ground but have been removed from newer maps. I am always surprised where I find remnants of old trails. Most recently was in the Split Mountain area.

@rockhopper, that is a great picture


I did see some on the historic maps on Caltopo-they seem to be pretty rough as far as exact locations of the trails but give you a sense of where to start looking on google earth.
28 days ago
Topic:
Old Trails

Buford
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Buford
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Topic: Old Trails
Rocko1 wrote:
Britain wrote:
Been interested in the trails to and from the Indian hill area. Some I figure were the super highways. Some just to and from food gathering areas. This one I think goes over or around the Coyotes. Havent seen any track on the backside of the mountain yet. But for sure above the northside badlands of the Carrizo creek . South Mesa area there's another long one I found. Perhaps part of this highway. West of the Indian hill, on the west side of Moan, theres a trail cutting across the hill side and going up. Lost it at the top but on the way down it passes a few well defined roasting pits.Perhaps part of one of the highways.


Would be great to have a map of these ancient trails in the park. They are really fascinating.


I agree it would be a good thing to have a map of all the old trails. I know some people on this board have a knowledge of a lot of them. Some of the really old maps show routes that still exist on the ground but have been removed from newer maps. I am always surprised where I find remnants of old trails. Most recently was in the Split Mountain area.

@rockhopper, that is a great picture
28 days ago
Topic:
2021

Buford
Buford
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Buford
Buford
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Topic: 2021
tekewin wrote:
Impressed as always! Have you considered free lancing for Nat Geo? Your stuff is that level. Keep posting!


Thanks. Only an amateur photographer. Day job pays the bills. Just something to do along with the hiking, peak bagging and camping.

The timelapse in my last post has a lot of new footage I hadn't posted before. Still figuring out video editing, codecs, color management and other things to improve it.

I took the opportunity to process segments of the timelapses into mean exposure stacks to simulate super long exposures with ND filters. The stacking does cause some artifacts on some of them and the settings were optimized for timelapse and not a single image. I may have gotten carried away with the vibrance and saturation sliders. Here are a couple.








Stacked to reduce noise and an exposure blend for the foreground from the timelapse:


Below is a nat geo moment. Click the black image to watch, not for those that like rabbits.

28 days ago
Topic:
Old Trails

Britain
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Britain
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Topic: Old Trails
rockhopper wrote:
This is one of my favorites. The crossing. The trails are washed away in deep and wide arroyos in the distance and then continue on beyond.



Needs a yield sign.....cool shot
28 days ago
Topic:
Old Trails

Rocko1
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Rocko1
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Topic: Old Trails
Britain wrote:
Been interested in the trails to and from the Indian hill area. Some I figure were the super highways. Some just to and from food gathering areas. This one I think goes over or around the Coyotes. Havent seen any track on the backside of the mountain yet. But for sure above the northside badlands of the Carrizo creek . South Mesa area there's another long one I found. Perhaps part of this highway. West of the Indian hill, on the west side of Moan, theres a trail cutting across the hill side and going up. Lost it at the top but on the way down it passes a few well defined roasting pits.Perhaps part of one of the highways.


Would be great to have a map of these ancient trails in the park. They are really fascinating.
28 days ago
Topic:
Old Trails

Britain
Britain
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Britain
Britain
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Topic: Old Trails
Been interested in the trails to and from the Indian hill area. Some I figure were the super highways. Some just to and from food gathering areas. This one I think goes over or around the Coyotes. Havent seen any track on the backside of the mountain yet. But for sure above the northside badlands of the Carrizo creek . South Mesa area there's another long one I found. Perhaps part of this highway. West of the Indian hill, on the west side of Moan, theres a trail cutting across the hill side and going up. Lost it at the top but on the way down it passes a few well defined roasting pits.Perhaps part of one of the highways.
28 days ago
Topic:
Pyramid Peak

rockhopper
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rockhopper
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Topic: Pyramid Peak
I like it. The Desert is back in full hiking mode. Hiked up to the natural rock tanks and Villager a few times. Always had my eye on Pyramid and Mile high peaks. Good show man.
28 days ago
Topic:
Old Trails

rockhopper
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rockhopper
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Topic: Old Trails
Rocko1 wrote:
rockhopper wrote:
What Rocko1 said is exactly correct. Many desert trails are thousands of years old and still exist in areas of low erosion.



Is the compaction of soil from years of foot traffic what caused plants not to grow on the paths?



Not always. hehe

28 days ago
Topic:
Old Trails

rockhopper
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rockhopper
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Topic: Old Trails
This is one of my favorites. The crossing. The trails are washed away in deep and wide arroyos in the distance and then continue on beyond.

28 days ago
Topic:
Old Trails

Rocko1
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Rocko1
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Topic: Old Trails
rockhopper wrote:
What Rocko1 said is exactly correct. Many desert trails are thousands of years old and still exist in areas of low erosion.



Is the compaction of soil from years of foot traffic what caused plants not to grow on the paths?
28 days ago
Topic:
Old Trails

rockhopper
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rockhopper
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Topic: Old Trails
What Rocko1 said is exactly correct. Many desert trails are thousands of years old and still exist in areas of low erosion.
28 days ago
Topic:
2021

tekewin
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tekewin
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Topic: 2021
Impressed as always! Have you considered free lancing for Nat Geo? Your stuff is that level. Keep posting!
29 days ago
Topic:
2021

Buford
Buford
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Buford
Buford
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Topic: 2021
Learning how to cut video together while it rains. Click the image to watch the full timelapse video:

29 days ago
Topic:
Old Trails

Britain
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Topic: Old Trails
Rocko1 wrote:
I just read about this in Schads book-natives chose ridges over washes because ridges rarely change-washes are constantly changing from flash floods, debris, and erosion-since efficiency is the key it makes sense to be up high and avoid the ever changing/challenging washes and have a clearer line of site.
edited by Rocko1 on 12/28/2021



Thanks good to know.
29 days ago
Topic:
Old Trails

Rocko1
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Rocko1
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Topic: Old Trails
I just read about this in Schads book-natives chose ridges over washes because ridges rarely change-washes are constantly changing from flash floods, debris, and erosion-since efficiency is the key it makes sense to be up high and avoid the ever changing/challenging washes and have a clearer line of site.
edited by Rocko1 on 12/28/2021
29 days ago
Topic:
Old Trails

Britain
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Britain
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Topic: Old Trails
Been following a trail from Indian Hill in the direction of North-East. Its hit or miss where off-roaders mangled it up. But you can still follow by the way the rocks are pushed aside. The area pf the Piepkorn slot area is its just disappears. I thought perhaps it dropped into the wash north of Red Hill. Nope. This weekend I found more. Trail tags the bluff north of the wash. There's 2 miles of it. Drops down where the Jojoba wash crosses S2. Wonder why these trails are usually always on hill sides or on the crest of the hill and not in the washes? Wheres is the final destination ?












Its a well defined trail disappears in lava rocks but it can be picked up afterwards.
29 days ago
Topic:
Pyramid Peak

Buford
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Topic: Pyramid Peak
If just doing Pyramid the route up Smoke Tree makes sense. Most people probably use the miner's trail out of Palo Verde Wash because they are doing a broader loop instead of just Pyramid.

There is actually an old trail from Smoke Tree that goes up and joins the ridgeline just North of Pyramid. That trail is hard to follow but one of the old hands showed it to me.
29 days ago
Topic:
2021

dsefcik
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Great photos Buford, thanks for sharing.
12/27/2021
Topic:
Pyramid Peak

Brian
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Brian
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Topic: Pyramid Peak
Rocko1 wrote:
Looks like a great trip Brian. Fantastic views up there. What was your mileage and elevation gain/loss?
edited by Rocko1 on 12/27/2021


10 miles round trip / 2600'
12/27/2021
Topic:
Pyramid Peak

Rocko1
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Rocko1
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Topic: Pyramid Peak
Looks like a great trip Brian. Fantastic views up there. What was your mileage and elevation gain/loss?
edited by Rocko1 on 12/27/2021
12/26/2021
Topic:
Pyramid Peak

Brian
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Brian
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Topic: Pyramid Peak
tekewin wrote:
Nice! Smoke Tree is the way I went and thought it was a good route. I got pretty far up the wash before I spotted the trail, but it was clear from there. Did you happen to swing by the rock tanks? I was just thinking they are probably holding a decent amount of water now.


I had read a trip report where someone mentioned seeing them from the ridge, so I was looking but didn't see them. That person may have been on a different ridge. I had gone up the side canyon to see them 10 years ago and didn't do that this time.
12/26/2021
Topic:
Pyramid Peak

tekewin
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tekewin
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Topic: Pyramid Peak
Nice! Smoke Tree is the way I went and thought it was a good route. I got pretty far up the wash before I spotted the trail, but it was clear from there. Did you happen to swing by the rock tanks? I was just thinking they are probably holding a decent amount of water now.
12/23/2021
Topic:
Pyramid Peak

Brian
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Topic: Pyramid Peak
Buford wrote:
I'm surprised the miner's trail was that hard to follow. It is steep. Finding the start of it is tough out of Palo Verde, but after that it has been very easy to follow for years. Did it get washed out in a storm? I know a huge storm hit that area in March 2020 and rearranged some of the canyon bottoms. Or were you on a different mine trail? There are at least two old trails back there in Palo Verde.


It was a combination of factors. I had done Schad's Rock Tanks loop 10 years ago and remembered the miner's trail as being marked by a cairn. It wasn't there this time. Also I had downloaded a GPX track which I assumed was going to follow this trail. It took me up a dry fall and then along a canyon bottom, which wasn't terrible but was kind of slow. I didn't remember that from before, but it had been 10 years so I thought my memory was off. The track eventually converged with the real trail.

When I got home I looked on Google Earth and saw the beginning of the trail out of Palo Verde is still there just as I had remembered it, but unfortunately I wasn't on it.

In any case I decided I would prefer an approach from Smoke Tree so I wouldn't have any up hill on the return.
edited by Brian on 12/23/2021
12/23/2021
Topic:
Pyramid Peak

Buford
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Buford
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Topic: Pyramid Peak
Pyramid is a fun one.

I'm surprised the miner's trail was that hard to follow. It is steep. Finding the start of it is tough out of Palo Verde, but after that it has been very easy to follow for years. Did it get washed out in a storm? I know a huge storm hit that area in March 2020 and rearranged some of the canyon bottoms. Or were you on a different mine trail? There are at least two old trails back there in Palo Verde.
12/23/2021
Topic:
2021

Buford
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Topic: 2021
Full curl cell phone shot. Didn't have a real camera along for this one:



More ramp color and no color treatments.


12/23/2021
Topic:
Pyramid Peak

ziphius
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Topic: Pyramid Peak
The views from Pyramid are fantastic. Nice trip.
12/23/2021
Topic:
Pyramid Peak

Brian
Brian
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Brian
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Topic: Pyramid Peak
On Monday I climbed Pyramid Peak for the first time. I had tried a couple months ago via Palo Verde wash. But I lost the miner's trail a few times and generally wasn't making very good time, so I decided to leave it for another time and another route.

This time I went straight up Smoke Tree Wash, which doesn't seem like a common route (based on GPX tracks I've seen) but worked out much better for me. It had been a cold clear night of camping in Coachwhip Canyon Sunday night, but that paid off with great clear views from the peak. I just had time to get a few pics before the weather started to change with clouds rolling in.

The only obstacle going up Smoke Tree is this small easily climbed dry fall.












12/19/2021
Topic:
Santa Rosas Petroglyph deciphers

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dsefcik wrote:
tekewin wrote:
Hey, is anyone else having trouble posting in the forum? I've had problems even leaving comments regardless of browser used.

There was a problem a month or so back but was resolved...can you elaborate on your current problem or a screenshot?



I think the problem may be fixed. Thank you! I'll reply with a screenshot if the problem comes back.
12/17/2021
Topic:
Santa Rosas Petroglyph deciphers

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tekewin wrote:
Hey, is anyone else having trouble posting in the forum? I've had problems even leaving comments regardless of browser used.

There was a problem a month or so back but was resolved...can you elaborate on your current problem or a screenshot?
12/14/2021
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Santa Rosas Petroglyph deciphers

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Hey, is anyone else having trouble posting in the forum? I've had problems even leaving comments regardless of browser used.
12/14/2021
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Santa Rosas Petroglyph deciphers

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The archeologists and anthropologists half jokingly half seriously say "ceremonial, ritual or religious purposes" when they don't know what the rock art means Thumbs Up

Native american parents probably were telling their kids not to deface the rocks hundreds of years ago.
12/14/2021
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M. Miller's Boots

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Interesting find out there. Lots of strange things left as memorials in different places.

I can't get my shoes to last 26 months, let alone years.
12/14/2021
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Because people like "the ramp," another version:


I have never seen any other images with the badlands as the foreground for the ramp. I am sure someone else has done it, I just haven't seen it. Maybe I'll put all the different versions I have together in one post.

Sunrise:


A couple shots from the nearby Mojave:




I keep breaking photo links here on accident, sorry about that.
12/11/2021
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Santa Rosas Petroglyph deciphers

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I appreciate the confidence in my knowledge...but I am no expert and IMHO anyone that claims to know what the glyphs actually represent is probably just guessing from their own perspective. Other than the obvious human and animal motifs, take in some datura and think away.....

The radiating circle motifs are common and I have seen many that have leading/trailing ends that connect to other adjacent motifs. Just get out and find the petros/pictos and enjoy from your own perspective and research what you find if you feel motivated, I enjoy the exploration and discovery but will not claim to be highly educated on their meanings.
12/9/2021
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Santa Rosas Petroglyph deciphers

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Greetings. I finally had some time to go back and look at some petroglyph photos from a trip I had taken into the Santa Rosas earlier this year. See post below. "Three Days of Petroglyphs in the Santa Rosas" I am not an expert by any means but this is my best decipher of what the indigenous peoples were trying to "say". They were all probably common knowledge among the tribes back then. What does the brain trust think?
First up.



I think this one represents the drying of Lake Cahuilla. It even correctly shows the Colorado river inlet orientation.

This one.





The four visible plants? Venus, Mars, Jupiter and Saturn? The ancient people had a lot of time to look at the night sky.

Last one.





I am seeing a Star and a Person. The star people as in ancient legends?

Daren is the expert here. What say ye?


I will be heading out again as I know I missed some. This area contains the most petroglyphs I have seen in one place in my travels into the Santa Rosas.

Cheers

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12/6/2021
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Will do and hopefully others who've done the routes can lead or if there's a GPX file would appreciate it especially if coming from the North Approach.
12/6/2021
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surf1div1 wrote:
Hey Brian, me and a fellow hiker are planning sometime around April (depending on remod project finish here) to do Pinto but based on those of you in the Jacumba Hikers group it appears that going by way of Boulder/Meyers it's a fair amount of rock scrambling. Not sure that were up for it even though it's the much shorter route (From Myers I have approx 11 mile based on the route on GE). From Davies it's further but not nearly as much rock scrambling. I'm keeping my eyes open on planned hikes from the group and if I see them doing Pinto I will most likely attend it since it's a led hike vs. an exploratory (which is what we normally do).


I think you're right that length vs technical difficulty is the tradeoff between the 2 routes. It seems like Jacumba Hikers are doing shorter hikes lately so I doubt they will do that one, but I think they have in the past so who knows. Not sure what I'll be doing in April, but I hope you continue to check in here as your plans evolve and maybe I'll be able to go.
12/6/2021
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Hey Brian, me and a fellow hiker are planning sometime around April (depending on remod project finish here) to do Pinto but based on those of you in the Jacumba Hikers group it appears that going by way of Boulder/Meyers it's a fair amount of rock scrambling. Not sure that were up for it even though it's the much shorter route (From Myers I have approx 11 mile based on the route on GE). From Davies it's further but not nearly as much rock scrambling. I'm keeping my eyes open on planned hikes from the group and if I see them doing Pinto I will most likely attend it since it's a led hike vs. an exploratory (which is what we normally do).

Brian wrote:
tommy750 wrote:
If anyone wants to head out there for a day hike, would be happy to join you. Parking on old Hwy 80 and crossing under I-8, heading up Boulder/Myer, it's probably in the 14 mile range rt


Tommy, if you're ever planning on doing it I would love to go. I've done that route from Old Hwy 80 to Myer Valley and looped back - doing a slightly longer variation of the route from Schad's book. So I know the area. Just haven't gone as far as Pinto. I didn't want to do that part alone.
12/6/2021
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Jacumba hikers calendar

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32.710278°N 116.040343°W

It might be part of the Jacumba Wilderness.
12/6/2021
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Jacumba hikers calendar

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Looks like a nice area. Was it in the Coyote Wilderness?
12/6/2021
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Jacumba hikers calendar

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Some pics from Saturday's hike.





11/30/2021
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I'm not one of the organizers of this group, but I go on their hikes sometimes. Their schedule is public, so I think it's OK for me to post it here in case anyone is interested and doesn't use Facebook. I plan to go on next Saturday's hike. The description is vague, but based on what they've done in the past I think it's a plateau between Davies and Myer valleys.

11/29/2021
Topic:
M. Miller's Boots

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Nice research. I have a pair of old boots I should enshrine like that. Hiked over 19,000 feet too.
11/29/2021
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I've had a couple folks reach out to me regarding found balloons, but was having difficulty with the DM feature recently- apologies for not being able to reply.

If you want to contact me directly, you can also email me: vervushtigit@hotmail.com

Thank you.
11/25/2021
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Rockhouse 3 day

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tommy750 wrote:

Who has eight days to do Rockhouse? You guys freakin retired or something??


We only left because we ran out of food.....retirement is highly recommended...!! (thank you hikerdmb)
11/25/2021
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Brian wrote:
The pool above that is now covered with branches but seemed to be doing OK underneath that.


We cover the top collection pool of water with branches so the animals don't get back in there and stomp mud and dirt all down into it. Unfortunately we usually find someone has removed all of them to get at the larger pool of water and then it gets damaged so no water flows out. Thank you for the report!
11/25/2021
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M. Miller's Boots

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Nice find..! Good chance it is the person you found.
11/24/2021
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M. Miller's Boots

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Very cool Tommy!
11/24/2021
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M. Miller's Boots

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The New Zealand Peak is probably Mount Tutoko.
11/23/2021
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Surf1div1 intro

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tommy750 wrote:
If anyone wants to head out there for a day hike, would be happy to join you. Parking on old Hwy 80 and crossing under I-8, heading up Boulder/Myer, it's probably in the 14 mile range rt


Tommy, if you're ever planning on doing it I would love to go. I've done that route from Old Hwy 80 to Myer Valley and looped back - doing a slightly longer variation of the route from Schad's book. So I know the area. Just haven't gone as far as Pinto. I didn't want to do that part alone.
11/23/2021
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Perhaps they did this to facilitate 'the wall' construction which from GE does show what appears to be construction activity. I'm game for a day hike of it if you're around in the Spring (probably during a new moon cycle) when it's cooler and we can enjoy the dry skies. This is what GE is showing and there is a long asphalt highway down there now.


tommy750 wrote:
Wow, just checked out GE's updated Davies Valley imaging. They put a freeway through it! Have to admit, it was one of the most serene and peaceful places I've ever hiked but not anymore. Here's what it doesn't look like now from near BM Kirk toward the Sierra Juarez. If anyone wants to head out there for a day hike, would be happy to join you. Parking on old Hwy 80 and crossing under I-8, heading up Boulder/Myer, it's probably in the 14 mile range rt with Davies a few miles more but obviously easier since you can walk the freeway. Nothing is harder than a little boulder hopping.

South Davies Valley3 by tomteske, on Flickr

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11/23/2021
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Wow, just checked out GE's updated Davies Valley imaging. They put a freeway through it! Have to admit, it was one of the most serene and peaceful places I've ever hiked but not anymore. Here's what it doesn't look like now from near BM Kirk toward the Sierra Juarez. If anyone wants to head out there for a day hike, would be happy to join you. Parking on old Hwy 80 and crossing under I-8, heading up Boulder/Myer, it's probably in the 14 mile range rt with Davies a few miles more but obviously easier since you can walk the freeway. Nothing is harder than a little boulder hopping.

South Davies Valley3 by tomteske, on Flickr
11/23/2021
Topic:
M. Miller's Boots

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Rocko1 wrote:
Wow, now that is interesting. Summit elevations listed-

CA-Villager 5,756' and Mt. Whitney 14,495'
OR-Mt. Hood 11,235'
WA-Mt. St. Helens 8,363'
NV-Wheeler Peak 13,063'
CO-Quandary Peak 14,265'
HI-Mauna Kea Volcano 13,796'
Africa-Kilimanjaro 19,340'

New Zealand-Couldn't find this one.


Is it just a memorial for the boots or boots and the person? I couldn't find any obituary's for a M Miller in 2012 in the San Diego area.
edited by Rocko1 on 11/23/2021



Thanks for doing the math, Rocko1!

I'm assuming the guy retired his 1984-2010 boots after an insanely long use period of 26 years (maybe special occasion only boots??) and in 2012 at age 59, hiked up to this shelter and left them as a memorial. The guy would now be 68 y/o and with all that peak bagging may be very much alive. Found an M. Miller living in Borrego Springs but have no idea if it's that guy. We've all found the RIP memorials for persons and pets out there but, your boots?? But heck, why not?
11/23/2021
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M. Miller's Boots

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Brian wrote:
Very cool find. Did you start out from the Elephant Tree area, or Hapaha Flat?



I started out from Fish Creek. There's supposedly a trail from Elephant Tree area to Harper/Hapaha but haven't found anything definite on GE as of yet.
11/23/2021
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Thanks Brian, that explains why people drop down from the North. Crazy they don't allow passage since it's BLM land. Tommy, what approach would you recommend after having done this a couple of times. I'll peruse some trip reports to see any other recommendations. Wondering if biking from that gate to pintos mouth might be an option.
11/23/2021
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Which gate are you referencing?


Both Myer and Davies are gated before you get into the valleys. This includes all the various roads into Davies. You can usually find the gates on Google Earth. Here's one 32.699341°N 116.006744°W (paste the coordinates into the search box of Goggle Earth).

I have been told the approach from Myer is shorter but involves some scrambling down a dry fall. The approach from Davies is longer but a straight road-walk.
edited by Brian on 11/23/2021
11/23/2021
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M. Miller's Boots

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Wow, now that is interesting. Summit elevations listed-

CA-Villager 5,756' and Mt. Whitney 14,495'
OR-Mt. Hood 11,235'
WA-Mt. St. Helens 8,363'
NV-Wheeler Peak 13,063'
CO-Quandary Peak 14,265'
HI-Mauna Kea Volcano 13,796'
Africa-Kilimanjaro 19,340'

New Zealand-Couldn't find this one.


Is it just a memorial for the boots or boots and the person? I couldn't find any obituary's for a M Miller in 2012 in the San Diego area.
edited by Rocko1 on 11/23/2021
11/22/2021
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Hi Tom, thanks for you're feedback. Since there appears to be a road (Clark Lane) that terminates a little over 2-1/2 miles from the proposed site I'm thinking of an approach from the South. Some of my reading elsewhere thus far shows a lot of people heading down from Boulder Creek and Mountain Springs which has me questioning my route down Davies Valley. If I can gain an approach from the South that would cut off a considerable distance (one of the forum members has a TR from VOM to the south which is nearly 11 miles). As much as I love hiking, the desert relative to my normal hiking jaunts is out of my wheelhouse. With a short distance like this and a grade of less than 4% this appears to be much more doable, but I'll defer to you and others for feedback. Thanks in advance.

tommy750 wrote:
Hi Surf1Div1, have been to Pinto Canyon a couple times and it's well worth the trip. Things have changed quite a bit since my last trip with multiple new Border Patrol dirt roads heading to the canyon from Myer and Davies Valleys. It's (or was) wilderness so you'll need to walk. Should be multiple posts on this forum about Pinto Canyon. Have fun.
11/22/2021
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Thanks Brian for you're response. Which gate are you referencing?
Brian wrote:
Welcome to the forum.

I haven't been to Pinto myself, but I'm interested enough that I looked into the routes. With the exception of Valley of the Moon (which is probably the most difficult approach) you won't need any special vehicle because you'll be stopped by a locked gate before you get anywhere close to the area.
11/22/2021
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M. Miller's Boots

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Very cool find. Did you start out from the Elephant Tree area, or Hapaha Flat?
11/22/2021
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Rockhouse 3 day

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dsefcik wrote:
Gary and I did 8 days out there


Who has eight days to do Rockhouse? You guys freakin retired or something??
11/22/2021
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On the highest point in this pic is a boulder pile overlooking the Elephant Tree Area. Yesterday, I was out following one of the various Kumeyaay trails in the area and eventually ended up at said rock pile.

Elephant Tree Area by tomteske, on Flickr

The pile contained a very nice rock shelter with rock circles both inside and out and multiple nearby roasting pits.

IMG_7696 (1) by tomteske, on Flickr

Inside the interior rock circle was a historical surprise.

Boots by tomteske, on Flickr

Anyone seen this before or know who this person is?? Now, I too really liked my last pair of hiking boots but this seems more in the infatuation/obsession range smile Wasn't quite sure what the numbers were but figured out they are elevations with 5756 being Villager and 14495 being the old Whitney elevation. Assuming all the others could be figured out as well. Did a reverse image search but zero hits. Enjoy! Tom

Plaque by tomteske, on Flickr
11/22/2021
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Thank you love this forum !
11/22/2021
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Thanks, Bob!
11/22/2021
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Hi Surf1Div1, have been to Pinto Canyon a couple times and it's well worth the trip. Things have changed quite a bit since my last trip with multiple new Border Patrol dirt roads heading to the canyon from Myer and Davies Valleys. It's (or was) wilderness so you'll need to walk. Should be multiple posts on this forum about Pinto Canyon. Have fun.
11/22/2021
Topic:
Rockhouse 3 day

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dsefcik wrote:
Cowboy camp spring (AKA stifferino) usually requires some maintenance, do you have any pictures of it?


I took pics when I was there in February (just before your trip) and didn't take new pics this time. In Feb the PVC pipe was clogged with mud and I did clear it out. This time there was a steady drip from the pipe. It's what I used to fill my mug. The pool above that is now covered with branches but seemed to be doing OK underneath that. I didn't stick my hand in because there were bees swarming all around.
11/22/2021
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That looks like a great trip Brian, I am glad you were able to spend a few days out there. Gary and I did 8 days out there last time and it was very peaceful, spent two days just hanging around the cottonwoods. That old rusty spoon was carried up from the old 'rosa village by another friend of mine on a different trip. The old coffee pot seems to have disappeared from the cottonwoods. Cowboy camp spring (AKA stifferino) usually requires some maintenance, do you have any pictures of it? We cleared a lot of brush last time and got it flowing good but it usually does not last long.

Barrel spring looks overgrown also, we trimmed that way back last time.

Trail shrines...yes, there are many, it is believed the native americans built those up and many people toss another rock on top each time they pass by.

Nice TR, thanks for sharing.
11/22/2021
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Rockhouse 3 day

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Brian wrote:
Rocko1 wrote:
Great trip report Brian. I'd really like to get back out there. How well were the springs flowing? Also, did you hear any strange voices at the Cottonwood camp?-lol.


Even though I didn't include pics of it, my first night was at Stifferino. It was a slow but constant trickle and took me a half hour to full 2 1.5 liter bottles. So I guess 6 liters/hour. The one closer to Old Santa Rosa looked about the same as last year. It would work in a pinch but you'd need something to filter the algae. The spring by the cottonwoods was flowing well.

I didn't hear any voices at the cottonwoods (and I was listening for them!). There were tons of mountain lion tracks going past, around and through the campsite, so that had me feeling hyper-vigilant.



Nice-anyone into Mt. Lion research would really do themselves a favor spending some time near the cottonwoods-shocking the number of footprints would make an excellent game cam location if the retrieval wasn't so difficult.
11/22/2021
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Welcome to the forum.

I haven't been to Pinto myself, but I'm interested enough that I looked into the routes. With the exception of Valley of the Moon (which is probably the most difficult approach) you won't need any special vehicle because you'll be stopped by a locked gate before you get anywhere close to the area.
11/22/2021
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Rather than peruse this site I figured I might introduce myself since it appears my interest has been piqued after visiting last Veterans Day for an unplanned rock art exploration trip. The sites we visited and the dark skies we experienced were awe inspiring. My plan is to make it down this coming spring after doing some research on the best approach to Pinto Canyon and discovering that area despite the warnings I’ve read up on but I digress.
I was first introduced to the desert in the early 60’s when my parents purchased a condo to stay in and as a minor spent many winters in the Palm Springs area until adulthood. Subsequently life has taken me into many recreational adventures (surfing, diving -free/scuba, mountain biking, hiking, backpacking, canyoneering) and now that I’m retired, I have the time with a buddy to take trips on short notice to explore rock art. I’ve visited many of the indigenous sites around the Santa Monica’s (primarily Chumash) Los Padres, and recently the Anza Borrego area. I’ve never really looked at petroglyph’s so I’m looking into the ones around Pinto for a future spring trip which is how I found this site. My plan is to take an excursion in my buddies 4 wheel Toyota again (and that last trip to Carrizo Gorge had me as concerned as I am on rope rappelling in a canyon) so I’m trying to allay my concerns by not re-inventing the wheel here by prepping and researching this upcoming trip. That’s it for now.
11/22/2021
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Rockhouse 3 day

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Rocko1 wrote:
Great trip report Brian. I'd really like to get back out there. How well were the springs flowing? Also, did you hear any strange voices at the Cottonwood camp?-lol.


Even though I didn't include pics of it, my first night was at Stifferino. It was a slow but constant trickle and took me a half hour to full 2 1.5 liter bottles. So I guess 6 liters/hour. The one closer to Old Santa Rosa looked about the same as last year. It would work in a pinch but you'd need something to filter the algae. The spring by the cottonwoods was flowing well.

I didn't hear any voices at the cottonwoods (and I was listening for them!). There were tons of mountain lion tracks going past, around and through the campsite, so that had me feeling hyper-vigilant.
11/22/2021
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Rockhouse 3 day

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Great trip report Brian. I'd really like to get back out there. How well were the springs flowing? Also, did you hear any strange voices at the Cottonwood camp?-lol.




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