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dliponi Posts: 5
11/3/2015
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I know Tom has gone many times and I hate to ask him to repeat a hike that is so familiar to him. Would anyone else like to go? I have never gone and would like to hook up with a few people that have done it once or so. The object would be to see the petroglyphs or some of them and the countryside. Would consider an overnighter tucked into a hidden spot. A dry spell in January might work. Open to ideas.
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tommy750 Posts: 1049
11/3/2015
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Was actually planning on going back, Don. According to Kamerling, there's five sites and I've only found the three well known ones. The other sites are a single glyph in the middle of the wash and a panel or two somewhere up a nearby canyon. The visit would be perfect for an overnight backpack except it's located exactly where it's located. Think something could be worked out...
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ziphius Posts: 911
11/3/2015
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Stealth camping near the border, sounds dangerously fun.
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tommy750 Posts: 1049
11/4/2015
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Time to check out the desert ghillie suits  Or maybe a bivy sack/ghillie suit combo. With snoring noise cancellation capability...
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sddarkman619 Posts: 153
11/9/2015
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I'd love to go to Pinto canyon and see that ship picto.
count me in.
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tommy750 Posts: 1049
11/11/2015
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sddarkman619 wrote:
I'd love to go to Pinto canyon and see that ship picto.
count me in.
I'm not really convinced it's a ship but you can form your own opinion when you see it. Coming from Meyer would mean a 14-16 mile trek to see the main sites and through Davies would be 16-18 miles. A nice overnight trip could start at Meyer and loop through Davies. The weather is finally good enough for any of the above. Let me know when you're interested in going.
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sddarkman619 Posts: 153
11/12/2015
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I'll have to acquire a pack first.
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sddarkman619 Posts: 153
11/26/2015
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my next purchase is a backpack for pinto canyon. Any suggestions?
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ziphius Posts: 911
11/27/2015
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Gregory Z-65 has been good to me for multi-day trips. If you have the option, a sand-colored pack is always nice.
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tommy750 Posts: 1049
11/27/2015
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Don't have too much to add to a backpack discussion since I'm pretty new at backpacking. Previously used Osprey packs for day hiking and backpacking but changed to a ULA Catalyst and really like it. Let me know when you want to head out there. Early next year sounds good.
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sddarkman619 Posts: 153
2/1/2016
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got my backpack.
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ziphius Posts: 911
2/1/2016
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sddarkman619 wrote:
got my backpack. Whaddya buy?
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sddarkman619 Posts: 153
2/1/2016
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I got an REI Yosemite 75.
I got it specifically because I'm going to start packing but I have a trip planned for Beveridge Milling Camp in the Inyo's in May. But I needed one for this trip too.
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surfponto Administrator Posts: 1364
2/2/2016
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It is a pretty crazy story...cool though
http://www.robertmarcos.com/ghost-ship/
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sddarkman619 Posts: 153
2/2/2016
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I read somewhere that it actually shows itself occasionally when the dunes shift.
pretty cool story!
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tommy750 Posts: 1049
2/2/2016
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surfponto wrote:
It is a pretty crazy story...cool though
http://www.robertmarcos.com/ghost-ship/
A great California tale for sure. Unfortunately, it quickly unravels with only a bit of fact checking:
1) You can't sail from the Sea of Cortez right into Ancient Lake Cahuilla since the lake level when full was 42ft and sea level is, well, zero.
2) There is some debate the lake contained water in 1612.
3) It's unlikely the ghost ship was trapped by sand bars because the water level of the lake rapidly dropped. It takes about 57 years for the lake to dry.
3) Sailing the 130 miles to Blythe against the mighty Colorado in a Spanish caravel seems a herculean task.
4) A point 300 ft SE of the farthest eastern point of the Superstition Mts would put the ghost ship about five miles from the nearest shoreline of Ancient Lake Cahuilla and over 300 ft above the highest 42 ft shoreline.
5) The supposed ship-like petroglyph in Pinto Canyon looks ship-like because the bottom half of the strange shape has been removed by the abrasive force of water flowing in the wash. Similar intact pictographs at El Vallecito look nothing like a vessel.
6) Finally, there is no Santa. Sorry.
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ziphius Posts: 911
2/3/2016
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Tommy, you must be part of the vast government conspiracy to kill the ghost ship story. You *know* it's there and that it's filled with treasure and you just want to get to it first. Selfish.
tommy750 wrote:
surfponto wrote:
It is a pretty crazy story...cool though
http://www.robertmarcos.com/ghost-ship/
A great California tale for sure. Unfortunately, it quickly unravels with only a bit of fact checking:
1) You can't sail from the Sea of Cortez right into Ancient Lake Cahuilla since the lake level when full was 42ft and sea level is, well, zero.
2) There is some debate the lake contained water in 1612.
3) It's unlikely the ghost ship was trapped by sand bars because the water level of the lake rapidly dropped. It takes about 57 years for the lake to dry.
3) Sailing the 130 miles to Blythe against the mighty Colorado in a Spanish caravel seems a herculean task.
4) A point 300 ft SE of the farthest eastern point of the Superstition Mts would put the ghost ship about five miles from the nearest shoreline of Ancient Lake Cahuilla and over 300 ft above the highest 42 ft shoreline.
5) The supposed ship-like petroglyph in Pinto Canyon looks ship-like because the bottom half of the strange shape has been removed by the abrasive force of water flowing in the wash. Similar intact pictographs at El Vallecito look nothing like a vessel.
6) Finally, there is no Santa. Sorry.
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sddarkman619 Posts: 153
2/3/2016
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tommy750 wrote:
surfponto wrote:
It is a pretty crazy story...cool though
http://www.robertmarcos.com/ghost-ship/
A great California tale for sure. Unfortunately, it quickly unravels with only a bit of fact checking:
1) You can't sail from the Sea of Cortez right into Ancient Lake Cahuilla since the lake level when full was 42ft and sea level is, well, zero.
2) There is some debate the lake contained water in 1612.
3) It's unlikely the ghost ship was trapped by sand bars because the water level of the lake rapidly dropped. It takes about 57 years for the lake to dry.
3) Sailing the 130 miles to Blythe against the mighty Colorado in a Spanish caravel seems a herculean task.
4) A point 300 ft SE of the farthest eastern point of the Superstition Mts would put the ghost ship about five miles from the nearest shoreline of Ancient Lake Cahuilla and over 300 ft above the highest 42 ft shoreline.
5) The supposed ship-like petroglyph in Pinto Canyon looks ship-like because the bottom half of the strange shape has been removed by the abrasive force of water flowing in the wash. Similar intact pictographs at El Vallecito look nothing like a vessel.
6) Finally, there is no Santa. Sorry.
and you just had to throw in the Santa thing didn't you? Geez... 
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tommy750 Posts: 1049
2/3/2016
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Okay, maybe Santa is still plausible. I'm going to walk that part back 
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surfponto Administrator Posts: 1364
2/3/2016
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My thoughts exactly ....
ziphius wrote:
Tommy, you must be part of the vast government conspiracy to kill the ghost ship story. You *know* it's there and that it's filled with treasure and you just want to get to it first. Selfish.
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