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tommy750 Posts: 1049
11/27/2018
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Had a three day weekend recently and was able to head out to The Potrero with Daren. Was last out with him on a five day Grand Canyon South Rim trip the month before( https://www.flickr.com/photos/tommy750/albums/72157701387945651 ). Ended up being about 34 miles and 8K gain/loss, something strenuous office work does not adequately prepare one for  This time we headed out from the equestrian parking lot off S-2 and hiked up canyon to the the circular trough about six miles in.
A little exploring via headlamp later that evening.
 IMG_0337 by tomteske, on Flickr
 IMG_0871 by tomteske, on Flickr
Daren getting his camping essentials organized.
 Camo Camp by tomteske, on Flickr
The next day we headed further up canyon encountering an old mine with surrounding rock walls. It's in the far left of the photo where Daren is looking.
 Toward The Mine by tomteske, on Flickr
Actually looked like an adit with the entrance partially occluded.
 Adit by tomteske, on Flickr
Looking down canyon.
 Upper Potrero by tomteske, on Flickr
Milling near an old spring.
 Morteros by tomteske, on Flickr
Lots of the expected ranching artifacts.
 IMG_0339 by tomteske, on Flickr
 Feed Trough by tomteske, on Flickr
Tarantula.
 Tarantula by tomteske, on Flickr
This guy was hopping all over camp and acting generally frenetic. You have a name for this guy, Ziphius?
 Black Headed Bird by tomteske, on Flickr
The final day we headed by a site Daren found on a previous trip with four metates and two soda bottles, a Pepsi and Coke.
 One of Four by tomteske, on Flickr
Another mine with rock walls.
 Mine Wall by tomteske, on Flickr
Found this on GE a while back. We both had a hard time finding it on the ground. Looks like an old ranching house.
 Structure by tomteske, on Flickr
 Foundation by tomteske, on Flickr
Nice bug.
 Black and Red by tomteske, on Flickr
Trying to enter a rock shelter with limited success.
 IMG_0341 by tomteske, on Flickr
Worth the squeeze.
 IMG_0933 by tomteske, on Flickr
 IMG_0903 by tomteske, on Flickr
We found and/or relocated a number of points. Here's a few. Seeing how these were created and re touched is quite fascinating. Almost tempted to carry a real camera and macro lens with me next time
Broken obsidian Cottonwood point.
 Potrero Point 1 by tomteske, on Flickr
Broken tip of a Paleo or Archaic point/dart.
 Potrero Point 2 by tomteske, on Flickr
I'm thinking this point was a nice obsidian Cottonwood that broke and was attempted to be retouched into a Desert Side Notch but abandoned.
 Potrero Point 3 by tomteske, on Flickr
About 21 miles, 2.7K gain/loss and another great time in the desert. Enjoy. Tom (All the pics with a white border are Daren's)
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tekewin Posts: 368
11/28/2018
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Awesome!
I think your bug is a velvet ant, a sort of wingless wasp. Supposed to have one of the longest stingers of any insect. The Indian artifacts are sweet. +1 for Jim Beam as a camping essential. You guys have it all figured out.
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tommy750 Posts: 1049
11/29/2018
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tekewin wrote:
Awesome!
I think your bug is a velvet ant, a sort of wingless wasp. Supposed to have one of the longest stingers of any insect. The Indian artifacts are sweet. +1 for Jim Beam as a camping essential. You guys have it all figured out.
Think you're right Tekewin. And nothing better than a couple swigs after a long day of hiking
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Buford Posts: 456
11/30/2018
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Cool trip. I like all the arrowheads. I have yet to find one mostly intact.
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tommy750 Posts: 1049
12/1/2018
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Buford wrote:
Cool trip. I like all the arrowheads. I have yet to find one mostly intact.
Yeah, I think we're about 50-100 years too late to see a lot of intact points out there. Most of the areas with old ranching have been picked pretty clean including Potrero. Even the broken ones are a nice find.
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rockhopper Posts: 668
12/1/2018
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Neat trip tommy and Daren. Did you pack water and/or locate a source? Nice arrow point finds there. Palo point is very interesting. The cave paintings are very interesting also. I need to spend more time on researching the meanings. On broken points. Between the cattle stomping all over the area past 100+ years and the ritual of breaking the deceased persons possessions a full point is super find.
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Britain Posts: 602
12/1/2018
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Have that on my radar. They actually have parking now just south of the runway next to the Troutman Mountain. Looks like a nice pack.
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tommy750 Posts: 1049
12/2/2018
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Britain wrote:
Have that on my radar. They actually have parking now just south of the runway next to the Troutman Mountain. Looks like a nice pack.
Not sure whether that lot allows more than day parking. Only time I was ever over there, the gate that led out to the lot was closed.
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Britain Posts: 602
12/3/2018
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tommy750 wrote:
Britain wrote:
Have that on my radar. They actually have parking now just south of the runway next to the Troutman Mountain. Looks like a nice pack.
Not sure whether that lot allows more than day parking. Only time I was ever over there, the gate that led out to the lot was closed.
Well, the equestrian parking would work. On another note, it's been reported that someone has been cutting off valve stems out there. A few reported being stranded.
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Britain Posts: 602
12/3/2018
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I may have given the wrong location for parking. This one.
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ziphius Posts: 911
12/3/2018
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Nice trip Tommy / Daren. The bird is a Dark-eyed Junco and yes, the black-n-red insect is velvet ant. Very painful sting! I wandered over in that mine direction a couple of times. Lots of ranching artifacts for sure.
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tommy750 Posts: 1049
12/3/2018
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ziphius wrote:
Nice trip Tommy / Daren. The bird is a Dark-eyed Junco and yes, the black-n-red insect is velvet ant. Very painful sting! I wandered over in that mine direction a couple of times. Lots of ranching artifacts for sure.
Thanks, Ziphius! Tom
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tommy750 Posts: 1049
12/3/2018
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Britain wrote:
tommy750 wrote:
Britain wrote:
Have that on my radar. They actually have parking now just south of the runway next to the Troutman Mountain. Looks like a nice pack.
Not sure whether that lot allows more than day parking. Only time I was ever over there, the gate that led out to the lot was closed.
Well, the equestrian parking would work. On another note, it's been reported that someone has been cutting off valve stems out there. A few reported being stranded.
That's not very nice. That would definitely suck coming back to that.
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dsefcik Administrator Posts: 2622
1/12/2019
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Yeah that was a fun trip, thanks for posting Tom....
Technically there is no legal overnight parking anywhere around there, it is all day use only parking.
Britain: Where exactly are stems getting cut? At the equestrian parking? Where did you get this info?
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dsefcik Administrator Posts: 2622
1/12/2019
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tekewin wrote:
I think your bug is a velvet ant, a sort of wingless wasp. Supposed to have one of the longest stingers of any insect. The Indian artifacts are sweet. +1 for Jim Beam as a camping essential. You guys have it all figured out.
I thought they were called "cow killers"....and I have to confess, there was Jack Daniels in the bottle....
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dsefcik Administrator Posts: 2622
1/12/2019
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A few more pics...
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Britain Posts: 602
1/12/2019
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Thats a fine collection of mylars!
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