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DRT Lakeside Posts: 62
12/20/2012
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Saw this today. Haven't checked out too many of the details but it seems that there are big plans afoot to mess with many of the desert areas we all enjoy.
I'm all for renewable energy, but there has got to be a better way than many of these options. (Alternative 7 seems ok) 
A Glimpse at What's Coming in the Desert Renewable Energy Conservation Plan
http://www.kcet.org/news/rewire/government/drecp/a-glimpse-at-whats-coming-in-the-desert-renewable-energy-conservation-plan.html
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dsefcik Administrator Posts: 2622
12/21/2012
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It is pretty much everywhere, Ocotillo should be the wake up call if anything. Here is more disaster for the Boulevard Community
http://www.eastcountymagazine.org/node/11983
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surfponto Administrator Posts: 1364
12/21/2012
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It is just insanity. Why aren't we focused on covering buildings and parking lots with PV instead of destroying wilderness.
Sucks that developers can get the land cheap.
Guess it is good for their bottom line and investors 
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surfponto Administrator Posts: 1364
12/21/2012
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I love seeing my employer (UCSD) installing more and more PV.
UCSD has covered the building I work in (pic) as well as the parking structures around campus with large photo-voltaic panels.
No nature was harmed in the making of this solar farm 
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dsefcik Administrator Posts: 2622
12/21/2012
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I know the school I work for has been installing rooftop solar for the last few years and recently a solar powered vehicle re-charging station. They claim a significant reduction in electricity bills.
Didn't come from the desert, came from our rooftop.
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surfponto Administrator Posts: 1364
12/21/2012
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Hey that is a good idea for a bumper sticker of an electric car
That or maybe something like "No back-country was destroyed in powering this vehicle !"
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I know the school I work for has been installing rooftop solar for the last few years and recently a solar powered vehicle re-charging station. They claim a significant reduction in electricity bills.
Didn't come from the desert, came from our rooftop.
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mrkmc Posts: 87
12/21/2012
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dsefcik wrote:
I know the school I work for has been installing rooftop solar for the last few years and recently a solar powered vehicle re-charging station. They claim a significant reduction in electricity bills.
Didn't come from the desert, came from our rooftop.
Those school rooftop solar projects are paid for with obama cash. They will never pay for themselves with money saved on electricity bills.
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ziphius Posts: 911
12/21/2012
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surfponto wrote:
I love seeing my employer (UCSD) installing more and more PV.
UCSD has covered the building I work in (pic) as well as the parking structures around campus with large photo-voltaic panels.
No nature was harmed in the making of this solar farm
I was happy to see those PV panels going up at UCSD. Always brings a smile to my face when I walk up there for lunch.
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dsefcik Administrator Posts: 2622
12/21/2012
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mrkmc wrote:
dsefcik wrote:
I know the school I work for has been installing rooftop solar for the last few years and recently a solar powered vehicle re-charging station. They claim a significant reduction in electricity bills.
Didn't come from the desert, came from our rooftop.
Those school rooftop solar projects are paid for with obama cash. They will never pay for themselves with money saved on electricity bills. I am not sure how you determine that, we are not a public school and we negotiate contracts with our vendors. I suppose our vendors could be dealing some back end solar dollar funds (like all of the other desert projects). We (our school) decided to install solar, not Obama. If you want to make a political statement that is fine, I am not advocating for Obama or anyone else...except maybe Mother Nature.
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dsefcik Administrator Posts: 2622
12/21/2012
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I should probably add that our first school solar installation was in 2007, before Obama was president.
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mrkmc wrote:
dsefcik wrote:
I know the school I work for has been installing rooftop solar for the last few years and recently a solar powered vehicle re-charging station. They claim a significant reduction in electricity bills.
Didn't come from the desert, came from our rooftop.
Those school rooftop solar projects are paid for with obama cash. They will never pay for themselves with money saved on electricity bills. I am not sure how you determine that, we are not a public school and we negotiate contracts with our vendors. I suppose our vendors could be dealing some back end solar dollar funds (like all of the other desert projects). We (our school) decided to install solar, not Obama. If you want to make a political statement that is fine, I am not advocating for Obama or anyone else...except maybe Mother Nature.
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DRT Lakeside Posts: 62
12/21/2012
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I still think this solar roadway idea is a pretty elegant solution. I know it is a huge paradigm shift and infrastructure undertaking, but even if they just did new parking lots or new roads it might be worth a try. Rooftops are probably much easier though
Link to earlier topic and TED Video
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mrkmc Posts: 87
12/23/2012
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Darren, I am willing to bet it was some kind or federal grant or rebate. When I say Obama, I just mean federal government.
The solar and wind thing is a big joke. it takes up so much space and is so inefficient. San Onfore generates power for 1.5 million homes, Ocitillo wind farm, 125,000. WTF?
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dsefcik Administrator Posts: 2622
12/23/2012
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Agreed, there was/is probably gov subsidies somewhere in all of our solar installations but I do not know.
I think my point to the topic was that the solar power our schools are generating is on the rooftop, not in the desert. Whether it is cost effective or not is another discussion.
Mark, your points are well taken.
Thanks....
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Darren, I am willing to bet it was some kind or federal grant or rebate. When I say Obama, I just mean federal government.
The solar and wind thing is a big joke. it takes up so much space and is so inefficient. San Onfore generates power for 1.5 million homes, Ocitillo wind farm, 125,000. WTF?
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