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DesertWRX Posts: 135
11/10/2013
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Thought I'd try something new. Post pictures of memorials you have found in ABDSP or nearby BLM land.
On a hill above Carrizo Impact area border. ABDSP patrolled BLM land
In ABDSP just east of the Palm Canyon campground
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tommy750 Posts: 1049
11/10/2013
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Interesting idea. Should be quite a few pics for this topic. Tom
Near Coyote Wash and EC085. According to the Internet, found lying outside his car with a shotgun nearby.
Sixteen by tomteske, on Flickr
Yuha Desert
Yuha Cruz by tomteske, on Flickr
West of Coyote Mts
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dsefcik Administrator Posts: 2624
11/11/2013
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Hey Tom, where is the one you have from out in Pinto area?
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11/11/2013
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Carrizo Gorge near DeAnza, there is stuff written on the crosses but that was not the emphasis of the photo
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rockhopper Posts: 668
11/11/2013
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Unknown graves on the West side of Toro Peak , South West of the old lumber mill at elevation approx. 6500 ft.
Anyone have any info?
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tommy750 Posts: 1049
11/11/2013
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dsefcik wrote:
Hey Tom, where is the one you have from out in Pinto area?
Here it is. Tom
Cruz Azul2 by tomteske, on Flickr
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tommy750 Posts: 1049
11/13/2013
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rockhopper wrote:
Unknown graves on the West side of Toro Peak , South West of the old lumber mill at elevation approx. 6500 ft.
Anyone have any info?
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Assuming that's near Coyote Creek east of Vandeventer Flat somewhere? That looks like an interesting place to explore. You hiked there or drove? Looks like it's somewhat accessible off 74. Tom
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rockhopper Posts: 668
11/14/2013
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Hi Tommy 750,
Either hike in from Rock house Canyon or Hike down from Toro Peak. It's eaiser coming down from the mountian.
As I remember there were about 8 or more marked ( falling apart) wooden grave markers with no info. No idea of age
or who they were. But the view from the memorial ground was fantastic! I have a guess.
a) Converted Christian native Americans
b) Lumber mill workers ( seems like a lot) from the old Santa Rosa lumber mill
c) Homesteders who lived on or around the mountian
Going back has been on my list. If I can still find it! We just stumbled on it hiking down towards Toro Spring.
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tommy750 Posts: 1049
11/14/2013
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rockhopper wrote:
Hi Tommy 750,
Either hike in from Rock house Canyon or Hike down from Toro Peak. It's eaiser coming down from the mountian.
As I remember there were about 8 or more marked ( falling apart) wooden grave markers with no info. No idea of age
or who they were. But the view from the memorial ground was fantastic! I have a guess.
a) Converted Christian native Americans
b) Lumber mill workers ( seems like a lot) from the old Santa Rosa lumber mill
c) Homesteders who lived on or around the mountian
Going back has been on my list. If I can still find it! We just stumbled on it hiking down towards Toro Spring.
Thanks for the info. Need to head out there sometime. Tom
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wintyfresh Posts: 21
11/18/2013
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Not my photo (credit to Space Cowboy) but it certainly belongs in this thread.
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DesertWRX Posts: 135
11/23/2013
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The Frank Fox shooting is mentioned in one of the Lindsey books. Interesting to see a memorial!
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dsefcik Administrator Posts: 2624
10/23/2017
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rockhopper wrote:
Hi Tommy 750,
Either hike in from Rock house Canyon or Hike down from Toro Peak. It's eaiser coming down from the mountian.
As I remember there were about 8 or more marked ( falling apart) wooden grave markers with no info. No idea of age
or who they were. But the view from the memorial ground was fantastic! I have a guess.
a) Converted Christian native Americans
b) Lumber mill workers ( seems like a lot) from the old Santa Rosa lumber mill
c) Homesteders who lived on or around the mountian
Going back has been on my list. If I can still find it! We just stumbled on it hiking down towards Toro Spring.
I don't have any better info but was able to find the location this past weekend.
Rockhopper's original film photo
My attempt to duplicate Rockhopper's photo
Close up of the single remaining cross
View of Rockhouse Valley
Thank you Rockhopper for posting this, it was of great interest to many people.
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tommy750 Posts: 1049
10/23/2017
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Nice find, Daren. Thanks for the update.
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rockhopper Posts: 668
10/25/2017
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Daren,
You found them! Wow haven't seen that view in over 20 years. I still wonder who they were and when they were all buried. It does have a nice view for a burial spot IMHO.
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Britain Posts: 606
10/25/2017
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That's pretty cool!
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rockhopper Posts: 668
10/30/2017
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Daren, Tommy and the crew. I found these burial mounds east of the Santa Rosas on a trail heading down to the ancient Lake Cahuilla shoreline.
Working on posting pic with new photo hosting#%@!
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dsefcik Administrator Posts: 2624
10/30/2017
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rockhopper wrote:
Daren, Tommy and the crew. I found these burial mounds east of the Santa Rosas on a trail heading down to the ancient Lake Cahuilla shoreline.
Working on posting pic with new photo hosting#%@!
I saw them with the link...interesting, they looked like they had been dug up
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rockhopper Posts: 668
10/30/2017
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dsefcik wrote:
rockhopper wrote:
Daren, Tommy and the crew. I found these burial mounds east of the Santa Rosas on a trail heading down to the ancient Lake Cahuilla shoreline.
Working on posting pic with new photo hosting#%@!
I saw them with the link...interesting, they looked like they had been dug up
Daren, I am still struggling with my new hosting service as you can see. I am pretty old school so it takes awhile to figure the new photo sizing.
Anyway, here they are. Yes one of the 3 burial mounds was dug up. Why? I've only seen these in a few places around ABDSP and both times at least one was "disturbed". The first pic is the undisturbed one. These were found about halfway between the Ancient Lake Cahuilla shore line to the East and the Ancient mountain springs to the east.
Burial mound with unearthed mound behind.
This piece of pottery nearby shows an incluse and painted design. Meaning?
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